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Tuesday, October 7, 2025
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COUNCILMEMBERS
Barry Buchanan
Tyler Byrd
Todd Donovan
Ben Elenbaas
Kaylee Galloway
Jon Scanlon
Mark Stremler
CLERK OF THE COUNCIL
Cathy Halka, AICP, CMC
Council Committee of the Whole Committee Minutes - Final October 7, 2025
Call To Order
Roll Call
Council Chair Kaylee Galloway called the meeting to order at 1:02 p.m. in a
hybrid meeting.
Present: 7 - Barry Buchanan, Tyler Byrd, Todd Donovan, Ben Elenbaas, Kaylee Galloway,
Jon Scanlon, and Mark Stremler
Announcements
Special Presentation
1. AB2025-534 Presentation by Health and Community Services Department and VillageReach on
Permanent Supportive Housing Assessment
Galloway stated this was a Council -requested carryover item in response to
the interest in having more time for Council to discuss the findings that
came out of the Permanent Supportive Housing Assessment.
The following people discussed the item with councilmembers:
• Kayla Schott-Bresler, Executive's Office
• Chris D'Onofrio, Health and Community Services
• Ann Beck, Health and Community Services
• Michaela Mandala, Health and Community Services
Byrd stated he hoped that they could assess the impacts and success of
these programs using local data and not outdated or national data that does
not apply to this area.
The speakers and councilmembers discussed that the way they define
success locally is somewhat subjective, that outcomes of these programs
show that they promote housing stability for the most part and play an
important role in the housing system and for the unhoused population, that
the assessment would show that the programs appear to be doing great if
compared to the model from a decade ago but not as well when it comes to
behavioral health services compared to larger metropolitan areas, that some
of the data provided seemed almost contradictory in its determination of
whether a program was successful, how success should be defined, that one
issue is that there are not a lot of long-term program resources, that they
want to look at the whole spectrum of services while understanding that
some people will always need supportive housing and may not graduate
from it, whether people in the programs are interviewed and evaluated for
what types of issues they are facing when they enter programs and whether
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they have become a healthier individual when they exit, that the public may
have a different idea of what a positive outcome is than those in the public
health sector, and that the study presented outcomes in a more positive or
negative light depending on perspective.
This agenda item was PRESENTED.
Committee Discussion
1. AB2025-509 2025-2026 Mid -Biennium Budget Review
Aly Pennucci, Executive's Office, introduced the discussion.
Kayla Schott-Bresler, Executive's Office, read from a presentation (on file)
on the EMS budget levy scenarios to address the structural imbalance of the
fund, the projected ending fund balance for each scenario, the
administrative recommendation on minimum fund reserves (at least three
months of operating expenses) and most practical levy option (levying the
full voter -approved capacity beginning in 2026), and next steps. She
answered whether the $2.5 million that they had authority to levy in 2025
but did not collect (banked capacity) is just a one-time amount, and stated
over the next three years (2026, 2027, and 2028) there would be over $7
million in banked capacity available.
She and councilmembers discussed that the fund balance projections
include an increase in dispatch fees but not the two additional community
paramedics that are called for in the levy plan, the need to see the "red line"
(expenses in the presentation projections) being reduced or flattened
before deciding on using banked capacity, that Council would need to take
seriously the option of opening up the ALS and BLS contracts to have a
meaningful impact on expenses, and so giving time (since those are
mid -contract) for the EMS Oversight Board (EOB) to consider an
executive -proposed resolution that talks about an expense prioritization
process during the levy planning.
Jed Holmes, Executive's Office, spoke about variable revenues such as the
Ground Emergency Medical Transportation (GEMT) and the impact ($6
million) if that revenue is lost, and Donovan stated they should be planning
for that.
Satpal Sidhu, County Executive, stated he would like support from Council
to give the message that something needs to be done about the "red line."
The County taxes the people but the fire districts negotiate with the City of
Bellingham, so the County has a lesser say on the expense side. There needs
to be a willingness from the districts to look at the red line.
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Councilmembers discussed the authority and responsibilities of the County
and the City as it pertains to the funds, that they should work collaboratively
with the fire chiefs to solve this problem, suggestions from
councilmembers Galloway for reducing expenditures (on file in her EMS
Memo), having the EOB look at potential ways to reduce costs and looking
to Washington State Association of Counties (WSAC) and National
Association of Counties (NACo) for help, being able to see the average
cost per homeowner for any proposed tax increases for any County fund,
and having that separated by incorporated and unincorporated residents.
Hank Maleng, Fire Chief (Whatcom County Fire District 16) and President
of the Fire Chiefs Association for Whatcom County, spoke about
discussions already taking place in the EMS Technical Advisory Board
(TAB) to come up with potential cuts, and recommendations that have come
from those discussions (taking the banked capacity and changing the
required reserve balance percentage), why the reserve was set at 70 percent,
and other ideas being discussed at the TAB, including potentially cutting
some of the community paramedics, looking at the EMS office, and looking
at the BLS allocation. He spoke about things they are doing already to save
money, expenses they cannot control, and other things they can look at to
flatten the red line. He answered questions and councilmembers discussed
potential ways to decrease spending (such as paramedic training and
potentially consolidating dispatch) and understanding what impact any of the
cuts might have on the community so people can weigh whether the services
are worth the extra cost.
Pennucci stated this conversation is highlighting the conversations they are
having across all the funds in the county budget. Costs are outpacing
revenues. Reduction options take more time to work through, so
sometimes you have to go forward with generating more money to avoid an
abrupt service reduction.
Councilmembers discussed with the Administration staff, the timeline for
the budget and decision -making process, the impacts of the different
scenario options on the fund and the process, being mindful of the
importance of maintaining and restoring public trust and what scenario
might better accomplish that, and that this is the last presentation on the
budget before the executive delivers his recommended biennial
adjustments.
This agenda item was DISCUSSED.
2. AB2025-554 Discussion regarding Council meeting procedures requiring committee discussion
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during the day for all evening introduction items
Galloway briefed the councilmembers on the traditional procedure of
having an Ordinance be introduced and then discussed and recommended in
committee and considered for adoption in Council two weeks later, versus
the current procedure of discussing the items first in committee on the day
of their introduction then following the traditional path after that. She stated
there have been some clunky moments with the current way of considering
items, maybe creating some redundancies or inefficiencies, so they wanted
to bring it back to Council to give them an opportunity to reflect on it.
Councilmembers discussed the item and Cathy Halka, Clerk of the Council,
answered questions. They discussed ways councilmembers can preview
pending agenda items before an agenda is published and take a more active
role in deciding what is on agendas, that having the supplemental budget
request ordinances as a discussion in the Finance Committee before they
are introduced allows councilmembers to vote against something in them
(without triggering a re -introduction), developing an annual calendar to give
councilmembers a year in review of upcoming big issues, the idea of going
back to the traditional procedure with a few exceptions (budget
supplementals, big issues, or at the discretion of the chairs), and why the
process the Council follows is different than that of State or Federal
meetings.
Scanlon moved to move back to the prior system except for having
supplemental budgets under the current system.
The motion was seconded by Buchanan.
Councilmembers discussed the motion.
Aly Pennucci, Executive's Office, stated the Administration is meeting with
chairs and trying to flag issues earlier (even before drafting legislation), and
they are also interested in making sure councilmembers have time to
discuss bigger issues. She thinks they can do that without formal direction.
Staff and councilmembers discussed whether the motion includes all budget
items or just supplemental budget requests and that the Administration
recommends that it just be supplementals and not every budget action.
The motion failed by the following vote:
Aye: 2 - Buchanan and Scanlon
Nay: 3 - Elenbaas, Stremler, and Galloway
Abstain: 2 - Byrd and Donovan
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This agenda item was DISCUSSED.
3. AB2025-656 Discussion with County Executive's Office and Columbia Policy Advisors on 2026
State Legislative Session
Jed Holmes, Executive's Office, introduced the presentation.
Josh Weiss, Columbia Policy Advisors, read from a presentation (on file)
on how the 2025 session ended, how WSAC and the Council did on their
priorities, what to expect for 2026, and where they are at with agenda
setting for the next session, and he answered questions about the Mosquito
Fleet Act ferry bill.
Holmes spoke about when Council might be seeing draft Legislative
priorities.
This agenda item was DISCUSSED.
4. AB2025-700 Discussion of an ordinance amending Countywide Planning Policies, which reside in
Whatcom County Comprehensive Plan Appendix C
Galloway stated that, from her reading of the memo, this is really not up for
amendment or further discussion, but this is more of an update. They will
introduce it this evening and have a public hearing on it at the October 21 st
meeting.
Matt Aamot, Planning and Development Services Department, stated there
are no more amendments. It is just an up or down vote on October 21 st. He
answered whether there were any takeaways from the city discussions that
the Council should be aware of, and stated all seven cities approved it.
Councilmembers discussed what things council worked on that were not in
the ordinance to be introduced, and the added language regarding
intergovernmental cooperation and tribal engagement.
This agenda item was DISCUSSED.
5. AB2025-701 Discussion of proposed amendments to the 2025 Comprehensive Plan Update
Galloway introduced the discussion and stated they are creating time in
each Council meeting to allow for councilmembers to put forward their
thoughts, questions, and amendments.
Matt Aamot, Planning and Development Services Department, did not have
an update but was available for questions.
Councilmembers discussed holding off on making amendments to Chapter
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12 since they do not have a Planning Commission recommended version of
that chapter yet, incorporating the Point Roberts drainage plan, seeing
analysis of the future shorelines project and potential impacts of winter
storms as it relates to city and county growth in vulnerable areas, and
possible amendments to Chapter 7 that would acknowledge and incorporate
the reality of the economic uncertainty that could result from the
adjudication process.
Lauren Clemens, Climate Action Manager, spoke about where Chapter 12 is
in the process with the Planning Commission, and Aamot and
councilmembers discussed the timing for Chapter 2.
Galloway read from the "Council proposed Comprehensive Plan
amendments" (on file) and stated that several of the items are marked as
scrivener's errors.
Donovan moved that all of the changes that Councilmember Galloway noted
as scrivener in nature be accepted as amendments. On the attached table of
amendments, they are (by chapter -amendment item number): 641, 644,
741, 742, 744, 745, 943, 1241, 12-43, 12416, and 12425.
The motion was seconded by Buchanan.
Councilmembers discussed some of the scrivener changes on Galloway's
form.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 7 - Buchanan, Donovan, Galloway, Scanlon, Stremler, Elenbaas, and
Byrd
Nay: 0
The following people answered questions:
• Mark Personius, Planning and Development Services Department
Director
• Aly Pennucci, Executive's Office
Councilmembers and the speakers discussed working with Planning and
Development and Public Works staff to get some of Galloway's listed
questions on Chapter 6 answered, getting feedback from the Bicycle /
Pedestrian Advisory Committee, Chapter 6 item #18 regarding a proposed
amendment to Policy 6L-3, whether adding the word "multimodal" to that
policy might restrict the impact fees to those types of transportation
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systems and maybe adding a couple sentences about the legislative intent
there so it can be clear for the future, that Galloway's proposed amendment
to Policy 6L-3 reinstates what was originally recommended by County
staff, and the question of whether they should set a goal for a minimum
percent of the Transportation Improvement Program (TIP) to fund
bike/pedestrian infrastructure improvements (see item #19 under Chapter
6).
Donovan moved to amend to adopt Galloway's proposed change # 18 for
chapter 6 (policy 6L-3) which is returning the impact fee language to what
was originally there (staff -recommended language) so that it reads:
Adopt a transportation impact fee ordinance requiring new
development to fund a proportionate share of the costs of
multimodal transportation system improvements that benefit and are
reasonably related to new development.
The motion was seconded by Byrd.
Dan Dunne, Planning Commission, spoke about the definition of
multimodal and that the Planning Commission voted to include motorized
vehicles in that definition.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 6 - Byrd, Donovan, Galloway, Scanlon, Stremler, and Buchanan
Nay: 0
Abstain: 1 - Elenbaas
Scanlon moved to approve amendment #4 for chapter 4 which amends Goal
4G to add tribes and fire districts so that the first sentence reads:
Coordinate with non -county facility providers such as cities, tribes,
school districts, fire districts, and other special purpose districts...
The motion was seconded by Donovan.
Councilmembers discussed the motion and what the whole goal states for
context.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 6 - Donovan, Galloway, Scanlon, Stremler, Buchanan, and Byrd
Nay: 0
Out of the Meeting: 1 - Elenbaas
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Galloway spoke about her proposed replacement language for Goal 4-K
(item #8 under Chapter 4) and councilmembers discussed it with Aamot and
Personius. Personius stated they are OK with the proposed language, but no
motion was made by Council.
Galloway stated she would work with staff to identify a path forward for a
more efficient amendment process and she encouraged other
councilmembers to get their proposed amendments submitted.
This agenda item was DISCUSSED AND MOTIONS) APPROVED.
Motion approved that all of the changes that Councilmember Galloway noted as scrivener in nature be accepted as
amendments. On the attached table of amendments, they are (by chapter -item number): 641, 644, 741, 742,
7-94, 7-45, 943, 1241, 12-43, 12416, and 12425.
Motion approved to adopt Galloway's proposed change #18 for chapter 6 (policy 6L-3) which is returning the
impact fee language to what was originally there (staff -recommended language) so that it reads:
Adopt a transportation impact fee ordinance requiring new development to fund a proportionate share of the costs of
multimodal transportation system improvements that benefit and are reasonably related to new development.
Motion approved to approve amendment 94 for chapter 4 which amends Goal 4G to add tribes and fire districts so
that the first sentence reads:
Coordinate with non -county facility providers such as cities, tribes, school districts, fire districts, and other special
purpose districts...
6. AB2025-702 Discussion regarding efforts to address blighted properties and related health impacts
in Columbia Valley
Scanlon briefed the councilmembers on the discussion (AB2025-630) that
was held on this topic at the most recent Health Board meeting and other
input that was received, and stated what would be helpful would be direction
from the Council so that he and Councilmember Byrd can work on the draft
ordinance that Byrd. has started to draft, which addresses working on this
issue county -wide.
Byrd spoke about the draft ordinance which aims to streamline the County's
process of dealing with identified properties and stated it would formalize a
task force. He asked whether the ordinance needs to include proposed code
language.
Kayla Schott-Bresler, Executive's Office, stated they recognize that this is a
big community need and that East County is an underserved area. She asked
if the intent was to establish a community task force or an interdepartmental
working group between some County departments, and stated they have
concerns about establishing new task forces on specific issues without
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having a more global conversation around task forces, advisory boards, and
how much staff time this institution is spending on those things. She stated
they are really struggling to take on new initiatives right now.
Councilmembers discussed that this might actually alleviate some of the
staff workload, that this task force should have a sunset clause and could
just be short-term, that they could theoretically establish the task force by
resolution and not actually have it codified, and that they could include one
of the deputy executives in their conversations.
This agenda item was DISCUSSED.
Items Added by Revision
Other Business
Adjournment
There were no agenda items added by revision.
There was no other business.
The meeting adjourned at 4:31 p.m.
The County Council approved these minutes on October 21, 2025.
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Kaylee Galloway, Council Chair
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