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Wednesday, August 6, 2025
1PM
Hybrid Meeting - Council Chambers
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COUNCILMEMBERS
Barry Buchanan
Tyler Byrd
Todd Donovan
Ben Elenbaas
Kaylee Galloway
Jon Scanlon
Mark Stremler
CLERK OF THE COUNCIL
Cathy Halka, AICP, CMC
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Call To Order
Roll Call
Council Chair Kaylee Galloway called the meeting to order at 1:02 p.m. in a
hybrid meeting.
Present: 7 - Barry Buchanan, Tyler Byrd, Todd Donovan, Ben Elenbaas, Kaylee Galloway,
Jon Scanlon, and Mark Stremler
Announcements
Special Presentation
I. AB2025-512 Presentation from Les Reardanz regarding the Whatcom Transportation Authority
(WTA)
Les Reardanz, Whatcom Transportation Authority (WTA), read from a
presentation (on file). He discussed with councilmembers that the spike in
ridership from 2005 to 2009 was attributed to GO lines and WTA going to a
universal bus pass with Western Washington University, looking into the
legislation introduced in Olympia that would support transit agencies in
doing more passenger ferry work and that there would need to be a
dedicated funding stream to be able to make that transition, WTA's policies
around scheduled drop-offs and pick-ups, possibilities and challenges with
using UBER vouchers in place of running busses on challenging bus routes
and that UBER is not very cost effective, that expenses are shown in the
presentation to be a lot more than revenue for 2025, and that that is because
the board said they needed to spend down some of their budget reserves.
This agenda item was PRESENTED.
Committee Discussion
1. AB2025-396 Discussion regarding Council Office budget adjustments for mid -biennium
Galloway briefed the councilmembers on the file attachments for today's
meeting and stated this item is specifically looking at the County Council
Office's Supplemental Budget Requests (SBRs) and not the budget for the
whole County.
Buchanan spoke about the $15,000 credit request for Incarceration
Prevention & Reduction Task Force (IPRTF) Advertising and the $39,900
expense request for Contractor support for the Justice Project Oversight
and Planning (JPOP) Committee. For the IPRTF advertising, he and the
IPRTF leadership would like to propose not using the existing budget
authority for 2025 but retaining it for use in 2026. For the JPOP contractor
support, he stated the ordinance that set forth the ballot measure talks about
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JPOP facilitation being a qualified use of levy funding. But then there were
agreements made with the cities that they would not spend money outside
of construction for the first four years, so they need to have a conversation
with the Executive's Office to see what their latitude is there. He stated
JPOP really needs that facilitation help for the next biennium and the
second half of this one. Galloway asked whether there is interest in bringing
the IPRTF Annual Reports in-house and having Council staff do those, and
Buchanan spoke about the history of those.
Cathy Halka, Clerk of the Council, stated there would be a possibility of
Council staff taking the reports on with content provided by the IPRTF
co-chairs. She answered a question about the IPRTF advertising amounts
between the two budget years, and stated we currently have $10,000
allocated to 2025 and $15,000 to 2026. If the Council chooses to keep the
2026 funding and just return the 2025 allotment, she would need to revise
the SBR to reflect the giving back.
Buchanan answered whether returning $15,000 and retaining $10,000 for
the IPRTF advertising would be enough, and stated he would be fine with
that. He answered whether they have explored using jail levy funds for the
IPRTF items and stated the advertising would fall outside the scope and he
does not know how the reports would fit into that either.
Kimberly Thulin, Prosecuting Attorney's Office, stated her recollection is
that it is very restrictive but she is happy to look into it.
Kayla Schott-Bresler, Executive's Office, stated the Council unanimously
passed an interlocal agreement regarding the allocation of justice sales tax
with all the cities in Whatcom County. There is a clause in the agreement
that says, starting in July 2024, the County shall allocate 100% of the
County's portion of the sales tax to the design, construction, and bond
payment. She stated the ordinance is permissive but not restrictive, so there
are many things that are eligible, but the interlocal narrowed that field.
Councilmembers discussed whether General Funds should be used for the
JPOP facilitation, that not funding it would be putting a risk into the whole
justice project that is avoidable at a comparatively low expense, that the
IPRTF did not use the money allocated for advertising in 2025 but will be
ready for it in 2026, and that maybe the attorney and security in the
Chambers are not needed.
Galloway summarized the intent for the IPRTF advertising and Halka
clarified how they could accomplish it. They would just allow the $10,000
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in 2025 to lapse and would retain $10,000 of the $15,000 allocated for
2026 by submitting a SBR for $5,000 credit for the allocation for 2026.
Scanlon briefed the councilmembers on the Council Office attorney SBR
and the alternatives for them to consider (see Memo for 8.6.2025). He
stated that looking at the overall budget for the Council this year, he is
having a difficult time justifying additional funds to do this at this time. He
thinks alternative two is the best option and they can have a conversation
again if they demonstrate that there is more demand for legal services for
the Legislative branch of government. He spoke about other actions the
Council has going on that relate broadly to this.
Donovan spoke about another option of putting funds ($50,000) in a legal
reserve fund, that may or may not be used, for situations where Council may
want some independent advice. He spoke about why it would be a benefit to
the Council.
Elenbaas stated he agrees with almost everything Donovan said.
Halka answered a question about the $15,000 request for Courthouse
after-hours security and the difference between that and the budgeted
$14,000 for the Sheriffs deputy security. She stated she was informed by
the Executive and Facilities staff that they will now be charging us for any
Council meeting hours after business hours for the security company that
does weapons checks, so she is adding some funding to anticipate those
costs for next year.
Councilmembers and staff discussed whether the Executive's Office pays
their pro -rated share of this since they are also present at the meetings, that
this was because of a decision of the Superior Court system and that they
should be paying the additional cost, and whether there is a benefit to the
Council in having the Sheriff's Office security.
Byrd moved that they get rid of that appropriation, but Galloway asked if
they could entertain that motion when they address the SBR credits, so no
motion was put on the floor.
Councilmembers discussed the security.
Galloway moved to recommend the SBRs for the courthouse after-hours
security, the accessibility compliance (ADA Title II), and the Contractor
support for JPOP, but Byrd requested that they consider those one at a time.
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Galloway moved that they recommend the $15,000 Supplemental Budget
Request for the Courthouse after-hours security.
The motion was seconded by Scanlon.
Kayla Schott-Bresler, Executive's Office, answered whether the Council is
paying into Administrative Services to pay for things like this and why it
cannot be covered that way. She stated they could follow up later with the
rationale for why they are doing it this way.
Councilmembers discussed the motion.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 5 - Buchanan, Elenbaas, Galloway, Scanlon, and Stremler
Nay: 2 - Byrd and Donovan
Galloway moved that they recommend submitting the $50,000
Supplemental Budget Request for Accessibility compliance (ADA Title II).
The motion was seconded Byrd.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 5 - Byrd, Galloway, Scanlon, Stremler, and Buchanan
Nay: 2 - Donovan and Elenbaas
Galloway moved that they recommend submitting a $39,900 Supplemental
Budget Request for Contractor support for JPOP.
The motion was seconded by Buchanan.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 6 - Donovan, Galloway, Scanlon, Stremler, Buchanan, and Byrd
Nay: 1 - Elenbaas
Galloway moved to submit a negative $106,054 Supplemental Budget
Request for the Temporary Legislative Coordinator (BOE).
The motion was seconded by Buchanan.
Cathy Halka, Clerk of the Council, answered what this would look like. She
stated, in the biennium budget we funded a two-year temporary position to
assist our Board of Equalization team, but they have monitored activities
closely this year and have chosen not to fill that position.
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Galloway answered whether they could park this money for a future Council
staff position, and stated this was one-time funding for the biennium so they
would just be "zeroing" it out for fiscal year 2026. If Council decided to
make an FTE adjustment for the next biennium, that would be a future
Council decision. She reminded the Council that they had a target range of
budget reductions for the mid -biennium so that is why they would be
subtracting this item from the Council Office budget, so they can meet that
reduction target.
Schott-Bresler answered whether the Council office has to cut their budget
and stated the Executive's Office asked all departments about what they
would cut if they had to.
Donovan stated they were supposed to get the reduction proposals from all
the departments in July and make their priorities about what they should be
cutting or adding based on what they want other departments to be doing.
Galloway stated the Council is participating in the exercise as all other
departments are and they have to submit the outcomes of the exercise by
August 18th. So, they should get the results of the exercise at the beginning
of September.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 6 - Elenbaas, Galloway, Scanlon, Stremler, Buchanan, and Byrd
Nay: 0
Out of the Meeting: 1 - Donovan
Galloway moved that they submit a negative $15,000 Supplemental Budget
Request for the Council Internship Program.
The motion was seconded by Buchanan.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 6 - Galloway, Scanlon, Stremler, Buchanan, Byrd, and Elenbaas
Nay: 0
Out of the Meeting: 1 - Donovan
Galloway moved that they revise the Supplemental Budget Request for the
IPRTF Advertising to be a negative $5,000 that they submit, as revised, for
2026.
The motion was seconded by Buchanan.
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The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 5 - Scanlon, Stremler, Buchanan, Byrd, and Galloway
Nay: 1 - Elenbaas
Out of the Meeting: 1 - Donovan
Byrd moved that they have the Clerk of the Council draft a $14,000
negative Supplemental Budget Request removing the Sheriffs deputy
overtime hours (for Council security) and submit that SBR as prepared.
The motion was seconded by Elenbaas.
Councilmembers discussed the motion.
The motion failed by the following vote:
Aye: 2 - Byrd and Elenbaas
Nay: 4 - Stremler, Buchanan, Galloway, and Scanlon
Out of the Meeting: 1 - Donovan
Scanlon spoke about making more significant budget decisions than these
and that he hopes they are scheduling significant amounts of time for those.
This agenda item was DISCUSSED AND MOTION(S) APPROVED.
MOTION SUMMARY:
MOTION 1
Motion approved that they recommend the $15,000 Supplemental Budget Request for the Courthouse after-hours
security.
MOTION 2
Motion approved that they recommend submitting the $50,000 Supplemental Budget Request for Accessibility
compliance (ADA Title II).
MOTION 3
Motion approved that they recommend submitting a $ 39,900 Supplemental Budget Request for Contractor support
for JPOP.
MOTION 4
Motion approved to submit a negative $106,054 Supplemental Budget Request for the Temporary Legislative
Coordinator (BOE).
MOTION 5
Motion approved that they submit a negative $15,000 Supplemental Budget Request for the Council Internship
Program.
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MOTION 6
Motion approved that they revise the Supplemental Budget Request for the IPRTF Advertising to be a negative
$5,000 that they submit, as revised, for 2026.
2. AB2025-563 Discussion of 2025 Comprehensive Plan Update Chapter 6: Transportation
Chris Comeau, TranspoGroup, read from a presentation (on file) and
answered questions.
He answered whether some projects on the Six -year Transportation
Improvement Program (TIP) don't always happen within the six years, and
stated the TIP is essentially a public declaration of what the County's
priorities are. It should be things that are feasible and things that can be
practically delivered, but it depends on what the agency's priorities are as
well. He answered how emergency response and operations impact the TIP,
the standards, and the decision -making (especially thinking about Lakeway
which is the only way in or out of the Geneva and Sudden Valley areas). He
stated the reality is, there is not a feasible way to serve that area with a
second or backup route in and out of there. He answered questions about the
level of service on Hannegan Road and spoke about what it would take to
create a level of traffic stress type one or two.
Scanlon stated he is interested in whether this chapter allows the Parks
Department to do what they want to with a multimodal trail planner, and
would like to look at Safe Routes to Schools and what it would take in
unincorporated areas to prioritize shorter, safe routes to schools or to
transportation so someone could safely get to a bus stop.
Comeau stated he would not recommend having that as part of the standard
but would use it as a prioritization tool or strategy going forward. He also
spoke about Public Works Department staffing and stated it is one thing to
get grant funding, but they have to have the staff to deliver the projects.
Scanlon stated he is wondering if it still makes sense to have some type of
hook in the Comprehensive Plan update to be able to prioritize that type of
work in the future. He asked about the freight and goods transport system
map in the presentation and asked if it would make sense to look at some of
the gaps, and whether there is anything they need to do to make sure roads
are built to the standard that is needed.
Galloway stated they will probably have to schedule a follow-up discussion
for Council to discuss other questions or amendments in the fall.
This agenda item was PRESENTED AND DISCUSSED.
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Items Added by Revision
Other Business
Adjournment
There were no agenda items added by revision.
There was no other business.
The meeting adjourned at 2:58 p.m.
The County Council approved these minutes on September 9, 2025.
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