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Council Committee of the Whole
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Committee Minutes - Final
Tuesday, October 22, 2024
1:45 PM
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COUNCILMEMBERS
Barry Buchanan
Tyler Byrd
Todd Donovan
Ben Elenbaas
Kaylee Galloway
Jon Scanlon
Mark Stremler
CLERK OF THE COUNCIL
Cathy Halka, AICP, CMC
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Call To Order
Roll Call
Council Chair Barry Buchanan called the meeting to order at 2 p.m. in a
hybrid meeting.
Present: 7 - Barry Buchanan, Tyler Byrd, Todd Donovan, Ben Elenbaas, Kaylee Galloway,
Jon Scanlon, and Mark Stremler
Announcements
Special Presentation
1. AB2024-574 Presentation by Gwynne Gruizenga-Top regarding Whatcom County Search and
Rescue
Gwynne Gruizenga-Top, Search and Rescue, read from a presentation (on
file) and answered questions. She gave an update on the building project for
their new facility in Everson and stated a fire sprinkler designer is the last
piece before being able to get the building permit issued, and they are
thinking they will be breaking ground next month. She answered whether
Search and Rescue gets involved when skiers who go out of bounds need
rescuing at Mt...Baker ski area, and whether there are funding models in
other areas which tap into revenue from the outdoor recreation industry to
help fund Search and Rescue. She stated they are limited in getting public
funding because they are a private nonprofit. They do not have a regular
funding stream. Byrd spoke about the County contracting with them for
services like it does with other nonprofits. She stated they are volunteers
and their insurance is covered by the State as volunteers, so the County can
pay for things like operating costs, their building, or equipment, but cannot
pay them to respond to missions.
Councilmembers discussed calling a meeting with the Prosecuting
Attorney's Office to see if there are ways to overcome those challenges, or
scheduling something in a Council committee meeting.
This agenda item was PRESENTED.
2. AB2024-671 Presentation by the Whatcom County Ferry Advisory Committee regarding the
replacement of the Whatcom Chief ferry
The following people read from a presentation (on file):
• Pam Gould, Whatcom County Ferry Advisory Committee Chair
• David Parker, ad hoc New Ferry and Terminals Committee
• Tom Philpot, ad hoc New Ferry and Terminals Committee Chair
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Parker stated they have spent a lot of time talking about revisiting the size
of the vessel and whether the replacement could be downsized and the
project still retain the $25 million Rebuilding American Infrastructure with
Sustainability and Equity (RAISE) Grant. They also looked at whether
downsizing the ferry could reduce the costs associated with the required
retrofitting of the two ferry terminals.
Philpot stated he spoke to Representative Rick Larsen about the shortfall in
the project (even with the $25 million grant) and that Representative Larsen
said it was up to Whatcom County to contact the U.S. Department of
Transportation and pursue the various options to `keep the grant. He stated
they would suggest that the Executive prepare a proposal (with Public
Works) for the Department of Transportation to adjust the boat size to an
approximately 20-car ferry that reduces the National Environmental Policy
Act (NEPA) footprint, then reach out to our State and Federal government
representatives to explore all the possibilities.
Councilmembers discussed the call in the Lummi Island community to
explore a smaller boat and to reduce the cost of the overall project, hearing
from Public Works on how a smaller sized boat might affect level of
service and labor if it has to take more trips, and the problem of needing the
RAISE grant but maybe not being able to afford the design required to get
the grant.
Elizabeth Kosa, Public Works Department Director, stated they are looking
at a myriad of different options and will come back to Council with those
and their recommendations, probably in November, but a smaller vessel is
not off the table.
Satpal Sidhu, County Executive, stated they are looking at different options
and have reached out to Representative Larsen's office, and things will be
more clear after the election. The biggest cost is the terminals, more than
the vessel itself.
Scanlon spoke about analysis that looked at level of service which came out
of the Whatcom County Ferry Advisory Committee and stated that might be
something they could share with Council. It also looked at how a 20-car
vessel could meet the level of service.
Gould stated a smaller vessel meeting level of service was also discussed in
the original analysis done by KPFF.
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Galloway asked whether different designs (that have already been designed
in other areas) could be used or adapted, or whether they have done any
outreach to local boat builders to fact check some of this.
This agenda item was PRESENTED.
3. AB2024-710 Presentation of the County Executive's proposed 2025-2026 Biennial Budget
Aly Pennucci, Executive's Office, briefed the Councilmembers on the
Executive's proposed 2025-2026 Biennial Budget. She stated there are
several pending liabilities that are likely to hit during this biennium, as well
as costs that will continue to increase. While the budget takes steps toward
addressing under-resourcing, it is not enough to catch up with some of the
County's departments with expansions that have happened. That is why the
recommended budget comes with a commitment to looking at long-term
financial planning, introducing fiscal note requirements, and a plan to
conduct a budget prioritization exercise in 2025. It also includes taking the
banked capacity for the County's General Fund and Road Fund, and applying
the one percent allowed annual increase in the other levies, except for the
children's initiative. She spoke about the timeframe for making decisions
about any areas in which the Council is considering changes.
Buchanan stated the budget work sessions are Tuesday, October 29 at 1 p.m.
and Wednesday, October 30 at 9 a.m.
Satpal Sidhu, County Executive, answered whether there is any sense that
going into 2025 and beyond the County will get to the level of sales tax they
were planning on in the last biennium. He stated the County received $66
million from the Federal Government over three and a half years, and a lot
of community needs were met, but the fundamental flaws still remain. Even
if sales tax increases, they cannot depend on that because costs will keep
rising. There is no other way to fix that until they take a bold step, and the
longer they wait, the worse the situation will become and the harder it will
be to catch up.
Pennucci answered whether having to maintain a 15 percent fund balance is
in the charter or the code or if it is just an internal policy, and stated it is in
their adopted debt management policies. She answered why the decision
was made in the proposed budget to end 2026 with a 22 percent fund
balance, and stated the 15 percent is not that large of a fund balance, and
there may be $5-10 million of expenses (pending liabilities) that might hit
during the biennium that are not really optional, so they wanted to have
some buffer. They are trying to avoid an ongoing reliance on the fund
balance to support ongoing expenses. She answered whether, in future
bienniums, they would likely need to see cuts since they would be limited
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to one percent increases after using the banked capacity, and stated that is
why they have been saying that taking the banked capacity and then doing an
exercise of identifying expenditure reductions from the General Fund in the
next year is necessary to start showing a stable future. The budget exercise
will also look at all funds beyond the General Fund so that they can
understand which programs can be funded from which fund source.
Sidhu stated there is a move in the Legislature to lift the limit of one
percent to three percent. He also stated it will take two biennium budgets to
fix the structural gaps for the long term in revenue and expense.
Councilmembers and the speakers discussed what the Executive's memo
means by this being a status quo budget, why pending liabilities are not just
included in the budget instead of being reflected in the fund reserves, and
how Councilmembers should communicate prospective budget
amendments.
This agenda item was PRESENTED.
Committee Discussion
1. AB2024-647 Discussion relating to population and employment projections for the Birch Bay
Urban Growth Area (UGA), Cherry Point UGA, Columbia Valley UGA and areas
outside UGAs (Rural areas and Resource Lands) associated with the 2025 Whatcom
County Comprehensive Plan Update
Matt Aamot, Planning and Development Services Department, stated this is
a continuation of the discussion from October 8 and Planning is looking for
direction from the Council on the three Urban Growth Areas (UGAs) and
the rural population and employment projections. The cities are working on
similar projections for their UGAs and they anticipate getting those by the
end of October.
Donovan spoke about the proposal to put 10,000 new residents (455 per
year) into rural, unincorporated, non-UGA areas and stated he would
recommend lowering it to 300 per year.
Aamot answered how that amendment might affect what Bellingham and the
other jurisdictions are going to do. He stated it would be added into a new
State planning tool spreadsheet which distributes housing units to different
jurisdictions based on their share of population, but the cities can propose
what they would like to for accommodating in their UGAs regardless of
what the County proposes.
Donovan moved that they lower the 10,000-people estimate, which works
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out to about 455 people per year for planning purposes, to 300 people per
year.
He stated that assumes then that it would shuffle things around and the
planning would go on for those numbers in the UGAs and the incorporated
cities.
The motion was seconded by Buchanan.
Councilmembers discussed and Aamot answered questions about how they
ensure that the decrease that Donovan's motion is looking for in rural
growth is then accounted for in the cities, whether the numbers account for
growth that might happen because of people being drawn to the area for
major events (such as the World Cup and the Olympics) and subsequently
moving here, when Planning would like to have a Council decision on this,
the timing for them voting on a resolution, and whether they have time to do
a special session on this to give the decision the time it deserves.
Donovan asked how they can give Planning guidance which says that
following the status quo, in terms of planning for the amount of people they
expect to be moving into the unincorporated, rural areas, and limited areas
of more intensive rural development (LAMIRDS), is not good policy. He
stated they maybe do not have to pick a number today, but they could say
that it is not realistic to plan on 10,000 people and that some number of
those should be going somewhere other than in the rural areas.
Donovan withdrew his motion and moved that they have Planning and
Development Services plan to shift some of those 10,000 that are currently
assigned for LAMIRDS and the rural area to other locations.
The motion was seconded by Buchanan.
Councilmembers discussed the motion.
Donovan restated his motion.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 6 - Buchanan, Byrd, Donovan, Galloway, Scanlon, and Stremler
Nay: 1 - Elenbaas
•Councilmembers and Aamot discussed how they should communicate -this
to the cities, having to plan for infrastructure to accommodate any shifted
growth in the unincorporated UGAs that the County has jurisdiction over (in
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addition to the cities maybe accommodating some of it), the need for more
time to discuss the implications of that, engaging the City of Bellingham,
and adding a special meeting for more discussion.
Galloway moved that they hold a special meeting on Tuesday, October 29,
2024 from 9-9:55 a.m. to further discuss this agenda bill.
The motion was seconded by Donovan.
Aamot answered when the Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) is coming
to them, and stated they will have the draft in January and the final EIS
would probably be issued by June.
Scanlon asked whether it would be helpful if the Council were to send a
letter to the cities about their intentions and suggestions.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 7 - Byrd, Donovan, Elenbaas, Galloway, Scanlon, Stremler, and
Buchanan
Nay: 0
This agenda item was DISCUSSED AND MOTION(S) APPROVED.
Motion approved that they have Planning and Development Services plan to shift some of those 10,000 that are
currently assigned for LAMIRDS and the rural area to other locations.
Motion approved that they hold a special meeting on Tuesday, October 29, 2024 from 9-9:55 a.m. to further discuss
this agenda bill.
2. AB2024-699 Justice Project update presented by the Executive Office
Kayla Schott-Bresler, Executive's Office, read from a presentation (on file)
and answered questions.
Donovan stated it would be good to have ongoing updates on the capital
costs and whether capital or services would need to be resealed if costs go
over what is anticipated.
Satpal Sidhu, County Executive, spoke about the first meetings of the
Justice Project Oversight and Planning (JPOP) Committee and Finance and
Facility Advisory Board and stated they will be very actively working on the
justice facility project after November.
Schott-Bresler stated the Facilities Department will be coming to talk about
the capital project in two weeks and will be mostly focused on the budget of
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the project and where they are at in their project planning. If Council wishes
to talk more about financing trade-offs, they should schedule some separate
time to work on that. She stated the current projected cost estimate (and
they have not designed the facility yet) is $173.9 million so they think they
are still within the bounds of their existing framework.
This agenda item was DISCUSSED.
Committee Discussion and Recommendation to Council
1. AB2024-571 Resolution affirming food security as a public health priority
Buchanan stated they discussed this resolution at the last meeting and one
of the things that came up was that they needed to talk to the Agricultural
community, so they convened a roundtable discussion with representatives
from the Ag community. They also had another roundtable a couple weeks
ago with other people that were represented, so they had a great public
process in developing the resolution.
Galloway stated there has been a lot of evolution in this resolution as a
result of community and councilmember feedback and she hopes they can
continue the conversation as they consider the next budget cycle, the next
legislative session, and the ongoing efforts to get Congress to pass a farm
bill. This is just the beginning of the work.
Scanlon stated he and Councilmember Galloway went to the food security
summit and it was a reminder of how real these challenges are in our
community.
Donovan moved and Buchanan seconded that the Resolution be
RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL. The motion carried by the following
vote:
Aye: 6 - Buchanan, Byrd, Donovan, Galloway, Scanlon, and Stremler
Nay: 0
Abstain: 1 - Elenbaas
2. AB2024-662 Resolution revising the membership of the Northwest Clean Air Agency by adding
San Juan County to the Agency
Donovan briefed the Counciimembers and moved that the Resolution be
RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL. The motion was seconded by
Galloway.
He answered questions.
Donovan's motion that the Resolution be RECOMMENDED FOR
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APPROVAL carried by the following vote:
Aye: 6 - Buchanan, Byrd, Donovan, Galloway, Scanlon, and Stremler
Nay: 0
Abstain: 1 - Elenbaas
Items Added by Revision
Other Business
Adiournment
There were no agenda items added by revision.
There was no other business.
The meeting adjourned at 4:21 a.m.
The County. C-ouddiI approved these minutes on November 6, 2024.
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