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Council Public Works & Health Committee
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Committee Minutes - Final
Wednesday, November 9, 2022
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COUNCILMEMBERS
Barry Buchanan
Kaylee Galloway
Kathy Kershner
CLERK OF THE COUNCIL
Dana Brown -Davis, C.M.C.
Council Public Works & Health Committee Minutes- Final November 9, 2022
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Call To Order
Roll Call
Committee Chair Kathy Kershner called the meeting to order at 1 p.m. in a
hybrid meeting.
Present: 3 - Barry Buchanan, Kaylee Galloway, and Kathy Kershner
Absent: None
Also Present: Tyler Byrd, Ben Elenbaas, and Carol Frazey
Announcements
Committee Discussion
1. A113210-621 Discussion regarding proposed ordinance amending Whatcom County Code Title 3,
requiring that public funds used for construction projects also provide apprentices
with job training hours to meet the requirements necessary to become the next
generation of skilled trades persons
Kershner stated there is an original proposed Ordinance from Public Works
and a version that has Councilmember Galloway's proposed amendments.
They discussed the version with the combination of amendments and
comments (titled "Ordinance Used as Starting Point for 11.9 Committee
Discussion") on file.
Elizabeth Kosa, Public Works Department Interim Director, briefed the
Councilmembers and answered whether this would just apply to Public
Works projects or to any project in the County, whether Public Works
would develop the process for implementing this which could be used by
other departments, the change in dates in Exhibit A Section 3.72.020 for
when the requirements for utilization of apprentices would be implemented
depending on the cost of the contracts, whether there are any projects that
are going to be delayed or put in trouble as a result of where we are now if
they do not pass this Ordinance and how those would be handled, how much
this would cost the County to administer or whether they would be passing
that on to the contractors, and whether the person to administer the program
is already in the budget or whether they will be adding them.
Galloway answered and Councilmembers discussed a question about
whether exceptions and waivers (Section 3.72.050) would require Council
approval, how many conditions should need to be met in order for the
County to reduce or waive the apprentice labor hour goals, having a
two -pronged approach to the conditions so that two need to be met under
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normal circumstances or only one if it relates to emergency or urgency of a
public work, and whether "other reasons deemed appropriate" (as a
condition in Section 3.72.050 Subsection 2(C)) should solely live in the
jurisdiction of the Executive or if they felt that having Council approval was
an additional step of accountability and would be worthwhile, and whether
they should move the ability for the Executive to unilaterally have the
authority to grant an exception or waiver to be the last point in Section
3.72.050 Subsection 1 where it will also require a second condition.
Galloway moved to move Section 3.72.050 Subsection 2(C) ("For other
reasons deemed appropriate by the County Executive and not inconsistent
with the purpose and goals of this chapter") to the new l (F).
Kosa stated she did not think it would be an issue but would like to hear
from the County Engineer.
Jim Karcher, Public Works Department, spoke about the letter of the
subsection it would move to and whether he saw a problem with moving the
statement to Subsection one. He stated he did not.
Galloway clarified the motion to state that they would be moving 2(C) to
Subsection 1(G) (not F); it would be the last point in that subsection.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 3 - Buchanan, Galloway, and Kershner
Nay: 0
Kershner asked whether the extensive amount of reporting in Section
3.72.070 (Reporting) is what the Council wishes to require of the
Administration, who is keeping those statistics, who is responsible for
reporting them, and whether they have factored in the cost for how they are
going to manage that piece of the program.
Satpal Sidhu, County Executive, stated the contractor would submit a report
as part of the requirement in the Request for Proposal to the department
that is managing the contract.
Kosa answered whether reporting is part of the process that has not been
developed yet and part of the reason for the requested extension and stated
our process will probably be similar to that of Snohomish County.
Karcher answered whether monitoring the contract by County staff will just
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be one more piece of the monitoring process like we do for Federal and
State work that we receive grant funding for.
Galloway spoke about why she added the last bullet point in the Reporting
section.
Kershner asked about the word "multiple" in Section 3.73.050 Subsection C
("The contractor or agency has demonstrated that is has contacted multiple
State or Federal -registered apprenticeship programs...") and stated she
thinks they need to be wary of using the word "multiple." It might mean
different things to different people.
The following people spoke:
• Trevor Smith, Political Director for Laborers Local #292
• Lance Calloway, Associated General Contractors of Washington
• Karl de Jong, President of the Northwest Washington Central Labor
Council AFL-CIO
G4110i4ay moved to recommend the revised combination version as
amended for introduction on November 22nd.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 3 - Galloway, Buchanan, and Kershner
Nay: 0
Buchanan complemented the process for this item and stated it was very
transparent.
Councilmembers thanked people involved in the Ordinance.
This agenda item was DISCUSSED AND MOTION(S) APPROVED.
Items Added by Revision
Other Business
Adiournment
There were no agenda items added by revision.
There was no other business.
The meeting adjourned at 1:39 p.m.
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