HomeMy WebLinkAboutCouncil July 7 20151 WHATCOM COUNTY COUNCIL
2 Regular County Council Meeting
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4 July 7, 2015
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6 CALL TO ORDER
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8 Council Chair Carl Weimer called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Council
9 Chambers, 311 Grand Avenue, Bellingham, Washington.
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12 ROLL CALL
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14 Present: Barbara Brenner, Ken Mann, Satpal Sidhu, Carl Weimer, Pete Kremen,
15 Rud Browne and Barry Buchanan.
16 Absent: None.
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19 The motion carried by the following vote:
20 Ayes: Brenner, Mann, Sidhu, Browne, Buchanan, Weimer and Kremen (7)
21 Nays: None (0)
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23 FLAG SALUTE
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26 ANNOUNCEMENTS
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28 Weimer announced there was a strategy planning discussion and positions to
29 be taken regarding collective bargaining (AB2015 -018) in executive session during
30 the Committee of the Whole meeting.
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33 CITIZEN BOARD AND COMMITTEE VACANCIES
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35 Weimer announced the vacancies on the Incarceration Prevention and Reduction Task
36 Force.
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39 MINUTES CONSENT
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41 Kremen moved to approve the Minutes Consent items. The motion was seconded.
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43 The motion carried by the following vote:
44 Ayes: Brenner, Mann, Sidhu, Browne, Buchanan, Weimer and Kremen (7)
45 Nays: None (0)
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47 1. REGULAR COUNTY COUNCIL FOR MARCH 17, 2015
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49 2. SPECIAL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE FOR MARCH 31, 2015 (9:30 A.M.)
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51 3. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE FOR MARCH 31, 2015
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53 4. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE FOR APRIL 14, 2015
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2 S. REGULAR COUNTY COUNCIL FOR MAY 12, 2015
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4 6. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE FOR MAY 12, 2015
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7 PUBLIC HEARINGS
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9 1. ORDINANCE ORDERING THE CLOSURE OF A PORTION OF MANLEY ROAD TO
10 MOTORIZED VEHICULAR TRAFFIC (AB2015 -203)
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12 Weimer opened the public hearing and, hearing no one, closed the public hearing.
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14 Mann moved to adopt the ordinance. The motion was seconded.
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16 Brenner described the location and reason for closure.
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18 The motion carried by the following vote:
19 Ayes: Brenner, Mann, Sidhu, Browne, Buchanan, Weimer and Kremen (7)
20 Nays: None (0)
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22 2. ORDINANCE PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT TO THE WHATCOM COUNTY
23 CHARTER TO RESPECT COMMUNITIES AND PROVIDE FOR FAIR ELECTION IN
24 FIVE EQUAL COUNCIL DISTRICTS (AB2015 -205)
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26 Browne moved to hold temporarily Public Hearing items three and five to later in
27 the meeting. It will give people time to address the items of interest on the agenda. The
28 motion was seconded.
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30 Brenner stated she is against the motion. They don't know who came to speak to
31 which item.
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33 Mann stated discuss the items in the order they are scheduled on the agenda.
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35 Browne stated he's received over 100 emails on the other public hearing items, but
36 no emails on Public Hearing items three and five.
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38 Sidhu stated they could have public hearings on items one, two, and four first. After
39 those are done, hold the hearings on items three and five.
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41 Weimer stated the citizen proponents who brought forward items three and five have
42 asked that those two items be withdrawn.
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44 The motion carried by the following vote:
45 Ayes: Sidhu, Browne, Buchanan and Kremen (4)
46 Nays: Mann, Brenner, and Weimer (3)
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49 Weimer opened the public hearing, and the following people spoke:
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51 Jon Mutchler stated he is a Ferndale City Council Member and Charter Review
52 Commissioner. He is a conservative who is proud to be on the Commission. He referenced
53 and read from a letter from Commissioner Todd Donovan to the Council regarding attacks
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1 on the Charter Review Commission majority. He agrees with Commissioner Donovan's
2 comments. He's a fair and reasonable voice for the Commission. It's been a fair process.
3 He asks that the Council not send any amendments to the citizens, and let the citizens
4 judge the Commission's work. Competing amendments don't give the citizens a fair chance
5 to cast judgment on the Commission. Regarding the five districts, it's not necessarily wrong
6 to send it to the voters, but wait a year. It could still be done in time for the 2017 election.
7 There's no reason to send it forward in 2015. It will possibly confuse the voters. Allow the
8 citizens to judge the commission based on its work.
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10 Joseph Garcia stated he is a member of Disabled American Veterans and does not
11 believe in taxation without representation. He is also a business owner in Whatcom County.
12 The concept of one person, one vote is important in democracy. Every councilmember
13 decides on how his tax dollars are spent and on the regulations that affect him, his
14 business, and his family. He should be able to vote for all councilmembers.
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16 Rick Kiene stated he's more concerned about whether five districts is fair. There
17 shouldn't be gerrymandering of the five areas. Whatcom County used to have three
18 commissioners, each elected by the people in their district. Don't gerrymander the districts
19 to make it favor anyone. He is also a veteran. Consider whether all of these ordinances are
20 good for all, or just one district.
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22 Hal Glidden stated the Council represents everyone in the community, and Council
23 actions affect everyone in the County. Don't restrict him from talking to every
24 councilmember by dividing the county into districts. They need an alternative to the
25 Charter Review Commission proposal during the election, to give the voters a choice.
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27 Dan McShane stated this proposal has nothing to do with the Charter Review
28 Commission proposal for district -only voting. It possibly addresses the concern of a broad
29 representation around the county, which will be better achieved with five districts. There
30 will be five geographic areas that councilmembers will be from. The five district proposal
31 addresses the issue of diversity of perspective.
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33 Iris Maute- Gibson stated the county has diverse landscape, values, and cultures.
34 Honor that diversity by ensuring each voice is heard equally. She supports five districts.
35 District -only voting limits representation to small rural communities and to Bellingham. It
36 demonstrates a lack of trust in the community to make decisions for the county as a whole.
37 The issue of five fair and equal districts is about better representation, not politics. It will
38 decrease factions and gridlock. It will create voting districts to represent the interests of all
39 citizens.
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41 David McClusky submitted a handout (on file) and stated the Commission is
42 essentially the same as a Board of Freeholders. He read from the handout on the authority
43 of County officials to submit alternate proposals. The law does not permit the County
44 Commissioners to submit proposals as alternative to the proposal from the Board of
45 Freeholders. A former attorney who wrote the Attorney General decision told him that his
46 decision could also apply to Charter amendments.
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48 Jackie Pettit stated the State Constitution gives the Council, as the legislative body,
49 the responsibility to put amendments before the voters. The Charter Review Commission
50 was to be able to do the same thing, but it does not preclude a voter from bringing
51 amendments to the Council. She supports the ordinance. It's the fairest approach, because
52 it creates communities of interest. The Council is responsible for deciding what goes to the
53 voters.
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Lisa McShane submitted a handout (on fi /e) and stated the State Constitution allows
the legislative authority to put amendments on the ballot for voters to consider. It doesn't
provide for a charter review commission to do that. As a citizen, she has a right to petition
her government at all levels. Therefore, the citizens' rights supersede the 2015 Charter
Review Commission. She supports the ordinance. This amendment did not receive a
majority of the votes by the Charter Review Commission. This proposal is more responsive
to concerns expressed by the citizens. Every citizen will be represented. This proposal
provides better and more fair representation.
Mike Estes stated he supports the ordinance. The State Constitution is clear about
how freeholders draft a county charter, not how a review process should work. The
Attorney General's opinion clearly says that the prohibition of competing amendments only
applies to charter adoption.
Lorraine Newman stated she has an agricultural background, and supports district -
only voting and the existing three districts. District -only voting should remain in effect for
at least two election cycles. She doesn't feel represented by any councilmember now, and
would not be represented by redrawn districts.
Kris Halterman stated the citizens elected the commission by district -only voting.
ReSources has set up Whatcom County for a lawsuit. Redistricting can only be done using
current census data, which is too old to be used in this proposal. The proposal will be
challenged in a court of law and thrown out as illegal. The County Council should respect
and abide by the current district and allow voters to decide on the issue put forward lawfully
by the Charter Review Commission.
Judith Akins stated she supports the proposed ordinance to ensure all voters have an
equal voice. They need a fairer system. The proposal allows rural voters and Bellingham
voters to have their community of interest. The current system is unfair.
Paula Rotondi stated she supports the proposed ordinance. Three districts no longer
represent the county population. Five districts more equally represent Whatcom County.
Brooks Anderson stated she supports the proposed ordinance. Everyone would have
representation. Most people here tonight feel they aren't represented and are attending for
their property rights and freedom. However, the current three district system is unfair to
people in the cities and the northern part of the county. The three districts were created
decades ago. Everyone should have a representative from where they live, or two
representatives if an at -large councilmember is from their district.
Lynn Billington stated she supports the proposed ordinance to allow all citizens to
provide input.
Stephen Gockley stated he supports the proposed ordinance. The Council has clear
legal authority to make this decision. Any districting proposal has legal criteria that governs
how they areas are drawn. The three districts now fail all the criteria. The current three
districts are more vulnerable to litigation. Let the voters decide.
Tim Douglas stated the three districts are a remnant of the old commissioner
system. It's impossible to divide the county into communities of interest. They will always
hear complaints from people who don't feel represented. Every other charter county has
increased their number of districts. Whatcom County is now diverse enough to justify
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1 expanding the number of Council districts. He supports the proposed ordinance. The five
2 districts will be very representative and will maintain diversity of opinion. Put this matter on
3 the ballot. He submitted a petition (on file) asking that this issue be put on the ballot.
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5 Edward Ury stated he supports the proposed ordinance to give the voters the right to
6 decide. There are strong arguments on both sides of the district -only voting issue. Given
7 the proportion of the population, they cannot divide the county fairly into three districts.
8 Most folks seem to be against the proposal, because they are concerned about the two at-
9 large seats. Consider the merits of both issues, and let the voters decide.
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11 Keith Fredrickson stated he is an activist regarding election systems. He supports
12 the ordinance to put the issue before the voters, which gives the voters direct control of
13 democracy.
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15 Bob Aegerter stated he supports the proposed ordinance. It's the fairest proposal of
16 all considered. He supports the comments made by Dan McShane.
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18 Dylan Richardson stated he supports the proposed ordinance. All the people he's
19 talked to in districts 2 and 3 have overwhelmingly supported the ordinance. He submitted a
20 petition (on file) asking that this issue be put on the ballot.
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22 Richard Kasper stated he supports the proposed ordinance because it gives him
23 three people who represent him.
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25 Bob Burr stated he is multi - partisan. The Charter Review Commission has been a
26 highly partisan process on both sides, since before the election. Give the voters a chance to
27 vote for or against any proposed amendment that has significant public support. The
28 Council should add amendments to the ballot. The five district proposal is more responsive
29 to voters. The Council's proposed amendments don't circumvent, but supplement, the
30 Charter Review Commission amendments. At last night's Charter Review Commission
31 meeting, two of the amendments were changed to address constitutional issues. However,
32 questions remain, and the Council must seek judicial review before putting them on the
33 ballot to save tax payer money from litigation.
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35 Ellen Howard stated she supports the proposed amendments. Whatcom county has
36 a lot of cultural and ethnic diversity, which the three districts don't represent. Having two
37 commissioners from the same family on the Charter Review Commission defies the concept
38 of diversity, which the proponents of district -only voting claim to want.
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40 Mike Lince stated the current three district system is 40 or 50 years old. He
41 supports the proposed ordinance.
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43 Alice Brown stated she supports the proposed ordinance. It's time to expand the
44 districts and recognize the larger and more diverse population. With the current system, it's
45 possible for Bellingham to not be represented. The five districts would meet State law by
46 keeping communities of mutual interest together. Every community would have a voice on
47 the council, and would be in compliance with the State Constitution and federal
48 requirements.
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50 Laurel Felber stated she supports the proposed ordinance because it represents all
51 voters more fairly. She would like to vote for this on the ballot.
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1 Wendy Courtemanche stated she has worked all around the county. She supports
2 the proposed ordinance. It seems rural residents don't feel represented by countywide
3 voting, but the district -only system disenfranchises Bellingham voters and divides
4 communities with the same interests. Everyone would be represented by the five districts.
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6 Dena Jensen stated she supports the proposed ordinance. Encourage people to
7 participate and be involved. The five district option gives people more choices.
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9 Doug Panek stated he supports the proposed ordinance. It's more fair and
10 representative. The current three district plan may be illegal, because it divides up
11 communities of interest. He agrees with the comments made by Tim Douglas.
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13 Clarissa Mansfield stated she supports the proposed ordinance. She agrees with the
14 comments made by Judith Akins, Dan McShane, Lisa McShane, and Bob Aegertar.
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16 Ronald Colson stated the district that Maple Falls is in is overwhelmed by Bellingham,
17 under the current three district system. Further restricting their representation by district -
18 only voting is contrary to the democratic process. He supports the proposed ordinance,
19 which will be more representational.
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21 Ronna Loerch submitted and read from a handout (on file) and stated she was
22 disappointed the Charter Review Commission meeting for July 13 was changed to last night,
23 and she could not attend. She supports the proposed ordinance. The current districts don't
24 represent the population well. Putting Bellingham in all three districts seems like
25 gerrymandering and seems to be contrary to State law. The boundaries on the petition are
26 only draft. This amendment was defeated by the commission, which was unwilling to
27 consider any other proposal. Therefore, it's coming to the Council, which has the authority
28 to place this on the ballot. The amendment for five districts does not conflict with an
29 amendment for at -large voting.
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31 Louann Chapman stated Whatcom county is the only charter county with three
32 districts, which is outdated. She supports the proposed ordinance. The Charter Review
33 Commission proposed amendment for district -only voting divides the community. Let the
34 voters decide on all amendments. Only the Council has a legal right to place amendments
35 on the ballot for voters.
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37 Rick Hann stated he has lived and worked in all areas of the county. He supports the
38 proposed ordinance, which better represents the diversity of the county than the current
39 three districts. This proposal and a countywide voting system would provide a fair and
40 balanced way to represent county voters.
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42 Jon Shaugnessy stated he supports the proposed ordinance for putting this on the
43 ballot for voters to choose. People from outside the county put money into local elections to
44 influence local democracy. Outside money frequently distorts local democracy.
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46 Alice Hoekema stated she supports the proposed ordinance, so the north county can
47 have its own representative, without including Bellingham. Regardless of how long
48 someone has lived in Whatcom county, they all must be represented.
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50 Daydra Phillips stated she supports the proposed ordinance because it is the fairest
51 way to choose representatives. Voters must have the choice.
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Doug Thomas, Bellingham Cold Storage Owner, stated his employees live throughout
the county. He is not a registered member of any party. He believes in any solution that is
logical, practical, and common sense. The Council should not rush to an irrational judgment
spurred by politics. Table this ordinance until they can characterize the merits of the
proposal. Neither system is perfect. The elected officials should find the best solution for
the citizens.
Delaine Clizbe stated none of the seven councilmembers represent her.
Councilmembers Mann and Browne have made it clear before this hearing that they support
the five - district proposal, which is a conflict of interest. Councilmember Weimer used to
work for ReSources, which has brought forward this proposal, so it is also a conflict of
interest. Change is needed in how people are elected. The Commission has taken many
hours of public testimony. The County Council has allowed special interest groups to meet
with them behind closed doors and out of the public eye. They don't represent all of
Whatcom county. She is against this proposed ordinance and all the other proposals that go
against what the Charter Review Commission spent hours proposing.
Tony Larson stated the Charter Review Commission has been characterized in
disparaging ways. There were only two tight votes at the Commission, which are tied to the
same issue and which are also before the Council tonight. The commissioners are fair
minded people who care about the community. The process doesn't seem to allow people
to engage. If these proposed ordinances are about good public policy, there should be time
to review them. Eliminate the pre- determined boundaries of district changes, and have it
set by appointed bipartisan folks.
John Strong stated he opposes the proposed ordinance, because it confuses the
voters. Allow them to vote first on district -only voting. If they want a fair process, create
seven districts and eliminate the at -large representatives. Give the people a chance to
interact with the council about creating a fair proposal. Also, outside people should not
influence local elections.
Wendy Harris stated she supports the proposed ordinance. The ordinance should
have been considered when people asked for it during the Charter Review Commission
meetings, but the people were ignored. It's hypocritical that they're asking for that now.
The Charter Review Commission doesn't equally represent both sides. The Council is being
asked how to represent the citizens who were a minority at the Charter Review Commission.
This community as a whole was not fairly represented by the Commission. The Council is
being asked to give equal voice to the entire community.
Caroline Anderson stated the Charter Review Commission was democratically
elected, and the commissioners did a good job. Anything proposed beyond the
Commission's proposals is confusing for the voters. Respect the work that the Commission
did. There is a more orderly process to change things if needed.
Jim Dickinson stated the government is a republic, and there is a long history of
districts at all levels to prevent the tyranny of the masses. The Commission was duly
elected by the people. The Council is trying to overrule the Commission. The proposed
ordinance guarantees control of the entire county by the city of Bellingham. The Supreme
Court recently ruled that a state legislature could not overrule a redistricting committee,
which this does.
Karl Uppiano stated the Charter Review Commission discussed this issue. However,
the sponsors of the amendment were asked to provide more information about transition
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1 language, but they didn't. The Commission wasn't necessarily opposed to the idea, but
2 simply decided implementation would be a problem.
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4 Linda Twitchell stated her concern is with the process of what they're considering.
5 She wasn't aware of these amendments until a few days ago. Take the time to discuss the
6 proposals in committee. There hasn't been the usual discussion and debate about a
7 proposed ordinance. The people haven't had a chance to become educated on the issue.
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9 Peggy Uppiano stated she agrees with extending the process. Eliminate the at -large
10 representatives and have just five councilmembers. She agrees with the comments of
11 Delaine Clizbe. The current councilmembers bear some responsibility for the conflict in the
12 community, because of a lack of respect for people with differing opinions. The Council
13 could have filled the vacant councilmember position left by Sam Crawford with a like -
14 minded person, but they didn't even consider it.
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16 James Gibson stated five districts is more representative than three, given the
17 current population of the county. The Charter Review Commission manners were terrible.
18 The Council is only voting to put this issue on the ballot. The County Charter and the State
19 Constitution give the Council the authority to put amendments on the ballot. With the three
20 district system, there are no communities of interest. The same people who were against
21 district -only voting at the Commission are the same people who are against this proposal.
22 Their original argument was for more representation of communities of special interest,
23 which this would do more than district -only voting.
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25 Cynthia Rogers stated she supports the proposed ordinance. There seems to be a
26 public relations problem about whether elected officials represent citizens or companies.
27 People have the right to speak to their representatives and the right to petition. Listen to
28 the citizens and don't be influenced by money.
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30 Linda Morell stated she opposes the proposed ordinance. She believes in the Charter
31 Review Commission process. The County Council should not want to disrupt that process.
32 The Commission has worked long and hard to develop its proposals thoughtfully, with
33 integrity, and with public input. Don't confuse the matter with counter - proposals, which is
34 not in the best interest of Whatcom county. If there are confusing counter - proposals, the
35 voters will question what they're doing. Help the citizens make informed decisions. Don't
36 put these measures on the ballot.
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38 Sam Sefzik stated he is against the proposal. The Charter Review Commission has
39 done a fine job. Let the process happen. The number of districts is arbitrary. There is
40 nothing wrong with the current district boundaries. The issue is with the at -large voting
41 system, not the number of districts. The political minority is suppressed by the at -large
42 system. The issue of district -only voting is the real issue. The current system allows the
43 political majority to tyrannize the minority.
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45 John Marshall stated he supports tabling the proposed ordinance. The current
46 Charter specifies how districts are drawn. He supports the exiting Charter language. He
47 doesn't know what the five districts will be when the citizens vote on the ballot measure.
48 He's against that.
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50 Amanda Martin stated she teaches and works with people and businesses around the
51 county. There is a dichotomy between a fixed mindset and a growth mindset. Even if the
52 result is messy, she wants options on the ballot for voters. Educate people who are fearful
53 of change.
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2 Matthew Goggins stated he is against the proposed ordinance. He likes the idea of
3 five districts, but there are issues with using current census data and transition language.
4 He looks forward to the issue being on the ballot next year. He doesn't support having two
5 at -large members. The Charter Review Commission is the duly elected body that should be
6 proposing amendments. The Commission listened to people for six months. That won't
7 happen here. He agreed with comments from Dave McCluskey about the Attorney General
8 decision. The Council hasn't discussed whether it's appropriate for the County Council to
9 take this action. The Council must not lose its legitimacy. He also agrees with Jon
10 Mutchler's comments. Let the voters decide if the commissioners are doing their job.
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12 Andrenetta Douglas stated she supports the proposed ordinance. Neither the
13 majority nor the minority should tyrannize the other. She's worked to gather signatures on
14 the petition, and most people are ignorant about what the Commission is doing. Putting the
15 amendment on the ballot won't be any more confusing that what the Commission is doing.
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17 Bob Vanweerdhuizen stated he liked the three commissioner system, because he
18 could get to know them all. The Charter Review commissioners were elected, and now it
19 seems people don't agree with the work they've done for the past several months. He
20 would like to know how the districts would be drawn before voting on them. Table the
21 ordinance.
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23 Ken Bell stated he heard a lot of remarks about how the Commission did its work.
24 They spent a lot of time on this. He and Commissioner Donovan spent a lot of time talking
25 about the measures and giving them due consideration. He's opposed to this measure
26 because it is divisive, and he doesn't like separating people into camps. Conservatives and
27 liberals have more in common, but it's become too personal. They don't have the means to
28 have a great debate. He prefers to debate ideas based intellectually on their merit so the
29 best ideas win, and it's not about who owns the county. The Commission debated
30 diligently. He is opposed to the ordinance.
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32 Janet Simpson stated she appreciates the hard work of the Commission, but it takes
33 more than hard work. It's not disrespectful to the Commission to put something else on the
34 ballot. It's part of the process. This vote by the Commission was very close, which means
35 it's appropriate for another body to consider it. She supports the proposed ordinance.
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37 Todd Donovan stated the Commission had a great process discussing different ideas
38 for representation. Some ideas were better than the ideas that the Commission came up
39 with. The five district plan better represents the communities. A change to a five - district
40 system would make some councilmembers not eligible for their current seats, so there is no
41 conflict of interest. The County will be less vulnerable to lawsuits with this system. With a
42 five - district system, it's more likely the Council would represent both political perspectives,
43 which is what they're looking for.
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45 Eileen Sobjack stated she is against the proposed amendments. The Charter Review
46 Commission spent a great amount of time discussing this issue, and voted it down. It
47 seems that the proposal doesn't address how the five districts are voted in. The County
48 Council shouldn't propose alternatives after the Commission has put time in on the issues.
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50 Ray Baribeau stated he agrees with the comments of Jon Mutchler. The Charter
51 Review Commission was duly elected, went through its process, and vetted these
52 amendments. Respect that process. If the Council wants to consider amendments for the
53 public, put them on the ballot next year.
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Dan Robbins stated the Charter Review Commission was elected by district -only
voting. It is the most balanced board of any in the county. Let the Commission process
play out. If they truly want to change it, don't do an end run around the Commission and
propose seven districts.
Dave Onkels stated he supports additional districts and fewer at -large positions. The
interests of the minorities are best served when there are no at -large positions.
Hearing no one else, Weimer closed the public hearing.
Mann moved to adopt the ordinance. The motion was seconded.
Brenner stated she was disappointed in a comment that inferred she accepted
campaign money from outside the county, which she does not. She doesn't accept any
campaign donations. She's disappointed when people say she doesn't represent them if she
doesn't vote their way. They can't represent what every single person wants at all times.
She trusts the voters. It's unfortunate some people think the voters will be confused. She's
always supported putting anything on the ballot that people bring forward. She's never
voted against doing that. The Charter allows the Council to put amendments on the ballot.
Regardless of how she personally supports the proposals, she will vote to put them on the
ballot and give people more choices. It's not disrespecting the Charter Review Commission.
She's disappointed it's become a personal issue.
Mann stated there have been a lot of partisan political games behind the scenes.
He's been guilty of doing that, too, especially on his Facebook page. He apologizes for
doing that. It wasn't right. He will try to do better at being respectful. He commends Mr.
Goggins and Mr. Uppiano, who are always respectful, even if they disagree. He works hard
to follow their example.
Sidhu stated he hears a lot of people from the second district say they have no
representative. As soon as he was appointed, people started accusing his appointment of
being an inside job. He has lived in the second district 30 years and has worked with
farmers all his life. No one from the Republican Party has ever approached him to talk
about their views. People are making wrong assumptions about him. They are better than
that. Talk to the people who live in his district and who have worked with him and know
him. It's other people's prerogative to shut him out rather than approaching him about
working with constituents. He's approached the Tea Party, Charlie Crabtree, and Farm
Friends in an attempt to represent his district.
Browne stated he attended several Charter Review Commission meetings. He
prefers to spend his time building consensus and dealing with issues than being divisive.
His first obligation is to protect democracy. The role of the Council and Commission is to
listen to all constituents and seek consensus on possible Charter improvements. These
proposed amendments have received hundreds of letters of support. Of those who spoke
tonight, about two - thirds support the amendment. They've received a petition with 2,100
signatures of support for the ordinance.
The ordinance does not conflict with the Commission's proposal. It is silent about
district -only voting. The people who serve a district should reside in the district, which this
current system ensures. His position on the Council will not be affected by the result of the
election. He supports all the Council- proposed ballot measures, so citizens have every
opportunity to vote.
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2 Mann stated he will not vote at the election for this five - district proposal. It's an
3 improvement over the current system, but the best combination is five districts that are
4 elected countywide. Don't pit one district against another. Five districts is a better option.
5 Submitting it to the people for a vote is fair. There is little self- interest for most
6 councilmembers.
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8 Sidhu stated the most important amendment and biggest issue was district -only
9 voting. The Commission voted on it early in the process, but should have let people speak
10 and the process play out. Providing options to voters is the wise thing to do. Voters are
11 wiser than the few people who get involved every day. Let the people decide what they
12 want.
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14 Brenner stated people said they don't know enough about the proposal. This
15 decision doesn't determine anything. There will be months during which people can learn
16 about the options. More people will get involved now.
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18 Buchanan stated he thanks everyone for participating in the political process. He will
19 support the ordinance to put the decision in the hands of the people. The measure doesn't
20 compete with district -only voting. It stands on its own merit. He encourages the voters to
21 educate themselves on the ballot measures.
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23 Sidhu stated he agrees there is enough time until November to explain the ballot
24 measures. He is the only person on the Council who is up for election.
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26 Kremen stated this process tonight is democracy in action. He listens to everyone
27 who has spoken. The issue isn't black or white. He must vote the way he feels most
28 comfortable when explaining his reasons. He can explain the reasons on both sides of this
29 issue. Voting is a sacred privilege. If an election doesn't produce a result that someone
30 wants, it doesn't mean they need to change the way they count the vote. The process in
31 Whatcom County isn't perfect, but it works. The idea of five fair and equal districts sounds
32 good, but it's not the answer. The current system is time - tested. The Council's political
33 makeup changes back and forth. The voters will change the political makeup eventually.
34 He doesn't support the Charter Review Commission proposal, but he respects the results. If
35 they put this proposal on the ballot, he fears that it may pass as well as the district -only
36 proposal. Then they may wind up with district -only voting with more districts. Keep the
37 system the way it is.
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39 Weimer stated he is going to support this ordinance this evening. First, someone
40 challenged that he has a conflict of interest because he used to work at ReSources. That
41 was 12 or 13 years ago. He hasn't worked with them since then. That claim is nonsense.
42 Second, they heard many people say the system works as is, more than they heard people
43 say everyone controls one side or the other. This seems to be about control. Two years
44 ago, this Council was totally flipped. The at -large seat that everyone is so worried about
45 the city of Bellingham voters controlling hasn't been very controlled. As he recalls, it was
46 Marlene Dawson, then Seth Fleetwood, then Bill Knutzen, and now it's Rud Browne. There
47 hasn't been much control in that system. The reason he will support this ordinance
48 regarding five fair, equal districts is because it represents communities much better than
49 the pie- shaped wedges they have now, which divides Bellingham into three separate areas.
50 Whether voting is countywide or district -only, it will be much fairer to everyone in those five
51 districts. That's the main reason he will (support this.
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1 Brenner stated that if people really want to do something to make voting fair, get
2 money out of politics. She's not talking just about corporations. She's talking about
3 anyone with money. There should not be so much money, if any at all, in politics. That will
4 make candidates do more work to get their message out to the people. Then people could
5 decide. There's no panacea, but that would make it better.
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7 Weimer stated they're ready for the roll call.
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9 Dana Brown - Davis, Clerk of the Council, stated that, just to clarify, this is going to
10 be the substitute version. She asked if that's correct.
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12 Weimer stated they're voting on the substitute, blue version of the ordinance. To
13 move these on to the voters, it takes a supermajority of the Council. It takes five votes for
14 these to pass.
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16 The motion carried by the following vote:
17 Ayes: Brenner, Mann, Sidhu, Browne, Buchanan and Weimer (6)
18 Nays: Kremen (1)
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22 4. ORDINANCE PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT TO THE WHATCOM COUNTY
23 CHARTER TO ELECT CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION MEMBERS BY
24 COUNTYWIDE VOTE
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27 Weimer opened the public hearing, and the following people spoke:
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29 Doug Thomas stated he is opposed to countywide voting, just as he would be
30 opposed to having people in another state vote on his state representatives. People should
31 have intimate representation. People should meet with the representative from their area
32 and have their issues be brought forward in a way the representative can clearly explain
33 those issues. They likely live in that district and can relate.
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35 Jon Mutchler stated this is not necessary. Between the Council and Commission
36 amendments, there may be an overload of amendments. They have ten years until the
37 next commission is elected. They can wait to put it on the ballot another year. There may
38 be an overload of ballot measures on this year's ballot. Campaigning countywide would be
39 difficult for candidates given the small amount they can raise for a position that lasts nine
40 months. Making it countywide voting would not allow the average person to run. There
41 hasn't been a problem with the Commission this year. This amendment drastically changes
42 the Commission. Only deep pockets and special interests will be able to run for the
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45 Bob Burr stated he doesn't know right now whether or not he favors district -only or
46 countywide voting for the Charter Review Commission. Let him make the decision in
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49 Richard Casper stated the ballot to elect the Commissioners was onerous. It was
50 difficult to get information on people across the county. In the interest of the voters, he is
51 opposed to the proposed ordinance.
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Karl Uppiano stated he campaigned for a position on the Charter Review
Commission. For an average citizen, funding a campaign that covers the entire county is
unimaginable and would be tough. This proposal raises the barrier of entry for the average
citizen to run a campaign. However, it may be better to ask the citizens. His concern is
that, although they trust the voters, there is an issue of ballot fatigue.
Lisa McShane stated she supports the proposed ordinance. They elected the original
freeholders by a countywide vote. Elected officials must represent everyone, especially with
the County Charter. Despite all the amendments, the ballot is still relatively short. This
isn't a presidential election cycle. She trusts the voters to pay attention. There is a lot of
interest in how the county elects people.
Ken Weaver stated he is opposed to the proposed ordinance. It will turn this into a
partisan race. The majority of the county residents lives in Bellingham. If it is at- large,
they will be only be comprised of people from Bellingham.
Brooks Anderson stated she supports the proposed ordinance. It's important to do
now.
Kris Halterman stated she is against the proposed amendment. Give a voice to the
people within their district.
Cliff Langley stated he was on the Charter Review Commission. The Commission
was great because of the opportunity to debate. A countywide vote for the commissioners
will eliminate a lot of debate and discussion. The people from District 2 have a different
view than people in Districts 1 and 3. He is opposed to countywide voting for Charter
Review Commission members. The last Commission had fewer conservatives, so that will
change. Discussion is necessary to find out what the county needs.
Bob Vanweerdhuizen stated he is for district -only voting. People from urban areas
aren't familiar with how farming works. Farmers put a lot of money into farming in
Whatcom county.
Chet Dow stated he is a Charter Review Commissioner. He agrees with comments
from Jon Mutchler. This is a bad idea if they believe in having a citizen - reviewed charter
every ten years. Countywide elections will turn into major campaigns. He doubts if anyone
running for commissioner raised $5,000. To campaign, people running for office needed to
go out and talk to people.
Emily Weaver stated it's important for people to participate in the process. Don't
make the Charter Review Commission elections countywide. She doesn't know who has
proposed this amendment. She would like the Council to disclose whose idea this was.
Consider how it will escalate the cost of the lowest level of participation. There is no
correlation between spending money and good decisions.
Lorraine Newman stated consider that there have been changes in Whatcom County,
such as the population of Bellingham and Western Washington University. Those
concentrated blocks of people can tip the races in one direction permanently. The only way
to keep it to all the people in Whatcom County is to keep it to those districts.
Joy Gilfilen stated she had to do research on the people running for election to the
Commission. The Commission meetings were a little messy, but there was some wisdom
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1 that came from the Commission. She is opposed to district -only voting for County
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4 Max Perry stated Charter Review Commissioners should be elected district -only. It
5 will be too expensive to run a campaign countywide.
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7 Carole Perry stated the Commission has been a process where they know and could
8 support their local representatives. She supports the comments of the first speaker on this
9 amendment. The commissioners were local people. She is opposed to an election
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23 The Council discussed whether or not to withdraw the last two public hearing items
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30 withdrawn, the Council has put these public hearing items on the agenda. It's the right
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40 Mann stated he was prepared to vote for this item, but was persuaded by testimony
41 to change his mind. He generally supports countywide voting. It would be costly and
42 complex if all the voters had to choose the top 15. He sees the sense of leaving it the way
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46 constituents for several months. There's nothing wrong with the system in place. If he had
47 to make a change, he would vote to require that anything placed on the ballot to change the
48 Charter, which is the County's constitution, has to be approved by a supermajority of the
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1 Browne stated the supermajority requirement should apply equally to the
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5 districts are designed well to represent like communities and minority communities.
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8 Ayes: Kremen, Brenner, Mann, Sidhu, Browne, Buchanan and Weimer (7)
9 Nays: None (0)
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14 3. ORDINANCE PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT TO THE WHATCOM COUNTY
15 CHARTER TO AFFIRM THE LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY GRANTED TO THE
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21 Dan McShane stated he asked for this to be withdrawn, because the Council already
22 has the authority to propose Charter amendments per the State Constitution. The language
23 initially put forward was modified from what he initially proposed, which made the point
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29 ordinance on the table and vote it down. The motion was seconded.
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33 Nays: Kremen, Mann, Sidhu, Browne, Buchanan and Weimer (6)
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41 withdrawn, because she didn't realize the Charter Review Commission has already proposed
42 a similar Charter amendment.
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46 Jon Mutchler stated this was an example in which the commissioners on both sides
47 came together. He is against requiring a supermajority of the commission to propose
48 Charter amendments. It's appropriate for the Council, which meets all the time. The
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52 the threshold. The County legal counsel said if both were on the ballot and passed, the
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Bob Burr stated he is in favor of the ordinance.
Charles Law stated he agrees with the ability to put more amendments on the ballot.
Eight percent has more representation in the parties.
Kris Halterman stated a lower threshold means less need for a County Council. The
County will be run by initiative. Passing an initiative should be a hurdle. She is opposed to
the ordinance.
Todd Donovan stated there are two Commission - proposed amendments about the
initiative process. Adding a third ballot measure would be a bit confusing. There are two
changes already to make it closer to State standards. Going from a threshold of 20 percent
to eight percent is a rapid change. He is opposed to the ordinance.
Wendy Harris stated she would like this item to be held to the next meeting if there
is still time to get it on the ballot. She's in favor of the lowest threshold. It's a lot of work
to get eight percent. It's not too radical to go from 15 percent to eight percent.
Ken Bell stated the Commission had a lot of debate on this issue, and came up with
near consensus. They took a lot of time debating the correct threshold. If it were as low as
eight percent, there would constantly be two warring factions putting competing measures
on the ballots.
Linda Twitchell stated eight percent would be 8,075, according to the last
gubernatorial election.
Hearing no one else, Weimer closed the public hearing.
Mann moved to adopt the ordinance. The motion was seconded.
Kremen stated he believes in the initiative process, but it should be a high bar.
Governing by initiative is not a good way of governing. There is no compromise or
consideration for an opposing view. It's all or nothing. That's not the way government was
meant to be. Don't create a situation where it becomes easier for the legislative body to
punt difficult decisions. He's seen that happen at the State level. A high percentage of
those who vote on an initiative have not read the initiative and, if they have, don't
understand it. It's a poor way to govern.
Mann stated he agrees with Councilmember Kremen. He moved it forward to vote it
down.
Brenner stated she doesn't like the argument that people aren't going to read it or
understand it. She's not sure how she would vote on this ballot measure. This makes it
more accessible for a real citizen initiative, not an initiative from a big group or political
pa rty.
The motion failed by the following vote:
Ayes: Brenner (1)
Nays: Kremen, Mann, Sidhu, Browne, Buchanan and Weimer (6)
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Debbie Adelstein, County Auditor, stated Section 8.20 describes the Charter
amendment general provisions, and says they may be proposed by the Commission, the
Council, or the public.
OPEN SESSION
The following people spoke:
• Don Buchanan spoke on the issue of restrictions on Glen Echo Gardens.
• Cynthia Ripke - Kutsegowicz submitted handouts (on file) and spoke about her
value system.
• Ray Baribeau spoke about the revised jail use facility agreement and the
allowed uses of the sales tax.
• Charles Law submitted a handout (on file) and spoke about working with the
Salish people and about amending the Charter preamble.
• Wendy Harris spoke about the proposed ordinance to create the Wildlife
Advisory Committee.
• Joy Gilfilen spoke about removing the .02 percent sales tax from the ballot.
• Bob Aegerter spoke about the proposed ordinance to create the Wildlife
Advisory Committee
• Amanda Martin spoke about funding for services for at -risk youth.
• Irene Morgan, Restorative Community Coalition, spoke about the proposed
new jail and providing jail alternatives.
• Carole Perry spoke about the jail use facility agreement.
CONSENT AGENDA
Browne reported for the Finance and Administrative Services Committee and
moved to approve Consent Agenda items three through five. Deal with the other items
separately.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Ayes: Brenner, Mann, Sidhu, Browne, Buchanan, Weimer and Kremen (7)
Nays: None (0)
1. REQUEST AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO APPROVE THE
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN WHATCOM COUNTY AND
PROFESSIONAL AND TECHNICAL EMPLOYEES, LOCAL 17, FOR THE PERIOD
JULY 7, 2015, THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 2016 (AB2015 -210)
Browne reported for the Finance and Administrative Services Committee and
moved to approve the request. The motion was seconded.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Ayes: Brenner, Mann, Sidhu, Browne, Buchanan, Weimer and Kremen (7)
Nays: None (0)
2. REQUEST AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO APPROVE THE
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN WHATCOM COUNTY AND
WHATCOM COUNTY DEPUTY SHERIFF'S GUILD BARGAINING UNIT FOR THE
PERIOD JULY 7, 2015, THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 2016 (AB2015 -211)
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Browne reported for the Finance and Administrative Services Committee and
moved to approve the request. The motion was seconded.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Ayes: Brenner, Mann, Sidhu, Browne, Buchanan, Weimer and Kremen (7)
Nays: None (0)
3. REQUEST AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO ENTER INTO A
CONTRACT AMENDMENT BETWEEN WHATCOM COUNTY AND GERALDINE
COLEMAN, SCOTT MAWSON AND MARGARET MAWSON TO PROVIDE
CHILDREN'S LEGAL REPRESENTATION IN DEPENDENCY ACTIONS, IN THE
AMOUNT OF $1,589.75 PER MONTH, FOR A TOTAL AMENDED CONTRACT IN
THE AMOUNT OF $7,968.75 PER MONTH (AB2015 -212)
4. REQUEST AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO ENTER INTO A
CONTRACT BETWEEN WHATCOM COUNTY AND AHBL, INC. FOR CONSULTANT
SERVICES FOR THE INTEGRATION OF LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT
COMPONENTS INTO THE WHATCOM COUNTY CODE AND DEVELOPMENT
STANDARDS TO MEET NPDES PHASE II REQUIREMENTS, IN THE AMOUNT OF
$75,000 (AB2015 -213)
S. REQUEST APPROVAL FOR THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO AWARD BID #15 -40
FOR THE SUPPLY OF TWO 4WD SMALL SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES TO THE
LOWEST BIDDER, BLADE CHEVROLET, IN THE AMOUNT OF $53,481.82
(AB2015 -214)
OTHER ITEMS
1. ORDINANCE AMENDING WHATCOM COUNTY CODE TITLE 3 TO CHANGE THE
EXPIRATION DATE OF THE SALES AND USE TAX FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES IN
RURAL COUNTIES (AB2015 -204)
Browne reported for the Finance and Administrative Services Committee and
moved to adopt the ordinance.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Ayes: Brenner, Mann, Sidhu, Browne, Buchanan, Weimer and Kremen (7)
Nays: None (0)
2. APPROVAL OF A REVISED JAIL FACILITY USE AGREEMENT RESULTING FROM
PREVIOUS COUNCIL ACTION THROUGH RESOLUTION 2015 -024 (AB2015-
047N)
Browne reported for the Finance and Administrative Services Committee and
moved to approve the agreement.
Mann stated it's silly that people think violent criminals will be turned loose if the
councilmembers vote against this item. He's voting against it because it's a $100 million
project that is not the most efficient use of their resources. The consultants failed the
County, and did not provide enough options or analysis to reduce the incarcerated
population. They could have a much better project. There isn't a chance this will be passed
on the ballot, and he worries about the impact of that failed ballot measure.
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Brenner stated she supports the agreement. This tax cannot be used for prevention
services. The Council has committed to and begun a robust diversion program. It's not
silly. She's heard people suggest patience for years. The current jail conditions are
dangerous and extremely inhumane for the inmates and people who work there. This is
overdue. There has been a good compromise with a strong emphasis on diversion
programs. The existing jail will cause real problems if they don't move to a better facility.
The new jail will have medical and mental health services, which will provide people with
much more support so that they will become stabilized.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Ayes: Brenner, Sidhu, Browne and Kremen (4)
Nays: Mann, Buchanan and Weimer (3)
3. ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING WHATCOM COUNTY CODE 2.118, CREATING A
WILDLIFE ADVISORY COMMITTEE (AB2015 -175)
Buchanan moved to adopt the ordinance. The motion was seconded.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Ayes: Brenner, Mann, Sidhu, Browne, Buchanan, Weimer and Kremen (7)
Nays: None (0)
INTRODUCTION ITEMS
Brenner moved to accept Introduction Items one through four. The motion was
seconded.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Ayes: Brenner, Mann, Sidhu, Browne, Buchanan, Weimer and Kremen (7)
Nays: None (0)
1. ORDINANCE AMENDING THE 2015 WHATCOM COUNTY BUDGET, EIGHTH
REQUEST, IN THE AMOUNT OF $137,713 (AB2015 -215)
2. ORDINANCE PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT TO THE WHATCOM COUNTY
CHARTER TO REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY OF EITHER THE ENTIRE CHARTER
REVIEW COMMISSION OR THE COUNTY COUNCIL TO PROPOSE CHARTER
AMENDMENTS (AB2015 -216)
3. ORDINANCE PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT TO THE WHATCOM COUNTY
CHARTER TO ENSURE THAT SEVEN WHATCOM COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS,
INCLUDING COUNCIL MEMBERS IN EACH VOTER'S OWN DISTRICT, WILL,BE
ELECTED BY MAJORITY VOTE OF THE REGISTERED VOTERS OF WHATCOM
COUNTY (AB2015 -217)
4. ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING WHATCOM COUNTY CODE SECTION 5.20.105,
FIREWORKS — SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES, TO ALLOW THE COUNTY TO
PROHIBIT THE DISCHARGE OF PRIVATE FIREWORKS DURING EMERGENCY
CONDITIONS (AB2015 -218)
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Brenner reported for the Public Works,
Health, and Safety Committee on the
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