HomeMy WebLinkAboutSpecial Finance March 7 1988WHATCOM COUNTY COUNCIL
SPECIAL FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING
March 7, 1988
The meeting was called to order at 3:00 p.m. by Committee
Chair Warner with all Committee members present. Also present
were Council members Jackson, Johnson, and Roehl; Tom Sutberry,
Budget Director; Paul Rushing, Public Works; John Tyler,
Buildings and Code; Foster Rose, Arnie Hanna, Don Gischer, Betty
Kiner, Tip Johnson, and Louise Bjornson, City Council Members;
Tim Douglas, City Mayor; Bill Hager, City Planning Department;
Peter Lieurance, City Administrative Services; Cal Leenstra;
Michael Brennan; Pam Cushing; Joel Douglas, and Jim Michel.
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ASSISTANCE CONCERNED DOWNTOWN SUPPORTERS
MIGHT LEND THE COUNTY.IN SITING THE PROPOSED NEW JUVENILE
DETENTION FACILITY IN THE CIVIC CENTER AREA
Paul Rushing
Public Works Director
Explained that the cost of building a facility downtown would be
approximately $800,000 more than that of a facility at the
Cordata site, due to factors such as the height of the
construction, the tight construction area, and the lack of
fabrication and storage areas.
Tim Douglas
City Mayor
Discussed the need for an overall plan for the civic center.
Don Gischer
City Council
Discussed the need for government services to be centrally
located in order to maintain the viability of the Central
Business District; stated that centralized services were more
economical and that the City Council was willing to help the
County to resolve problems.
Tim Douglas
City Mayor
Pointed out problems encountered by DSHS following their move
from the downtown area.
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Pam Cushing
City Center Development Authority
Centralization of government services will be downtown
Bellingham's strong point following the impact of Bellis Fair;
moving the juvenile detention facility out of downtown raises
concerns about a possible trend; questioned whether juvenile
detention facility is best use for Cordata property; urged
Council to consider various sites in the downtown area for the
facility. Warner pointed out that the County was being given the
Cordata property only on the condition that it be used for county
facilities.
Joel Douglas
600 Lynden Road
Urged Council to consider the 2 acres between York and Champion
streets, which he owns, as a possible site for the facility;
stated that the existing structures could be adapted in 120 days
and that he could beat the cost of any other facility by 20 %.
Tip Johnson
Bellingham City Council
Discussed advantages of the facility being located close to
security services such as police and sheriff departments;
questioned how effective the response to escapes would be at a
perimeter facility.
Cal Leenstra
Urged Council to consider his property consisting of nearly 4
acres at the nearby Bellingham Medical Center.
Mike Brennan
Chamber of Commerce
Stated that the decision on where to build the juvenile detention
facility had to be made in the context of what was best for the
juveniles; $800,000 would be a minor cost in comparison to what
it might cost the County if the wrong site were selected.
Dan Warner
County Council
Raised the issue of the overall environment in which children
grow up as opposed to the environment in which they may spend a
10 -day incarceration period; i.e., is an empty, blighted downtown
in their best interests in the long run?
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Corky Johnson
County Council Member
Spoke in favor of downtown site for the juvenile detention
facility; urged that the City assist in necessary street
vacations; suggested that the City purchase other County -owned
land for downtown parking; stated that the City would have to
help the County out if the facility was to be kept downtown.
Foster Rose
Bellingham City Council
Stated that the City Council Capital Facilities Committee would
be willing to work with the County on various issues.
Tim Douglas
Bellingham Mayor
Advocated consolidation of County property north of Courthouse;
City will cooperate in vacation of Lottie St.; City could
transfer permit and inspection responsibilities to the County.
Will Roehl
Whatcom County Council Member
Stated that the issue of the expenses involved in different types
of construction needed to be resolved.
Tim Douglas
Bellingham Mayor
Suggested looking at the way new revenues from annexations to the
City of Bellingham are shared with the County, as a means of
financial assistance from the City; new revenues from annexation
could be dedicated to existing service contracts.
Marvin Vanderpol
Whatcom County Council Member
Asked how City officials felt about other downtown locations
which were not in the civic center area; the response was that
this was not as acceptable as a civic center location but better
than a completely decentralized location.
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Emily Jackson
County Council
Asked if City concerns would be allayed if they were assured that
only the juvenile detention facility and no other county services
would be moved to Cordata. Foster Rose stated that such an
assurance would not alleviate city officials' concerns at this
point in time.
Pam Cushing
City Center Development Authority
Suggested that the County return the remainder of the acreage
which was not needed for a juvenile detention facility to
Cordata. County Council member Jackson pointed out that this
would not be a wise move on the part of the County and that the
County was not required to justify its use of the Cordata site to
City officials.
Dan Warner
County Council
Pointed out that the County also had to consider the possible
need for expansion in years to come, and that expansion would be
far more difficult in the civic center area.
Arne Hanna
City Council
Advocated use of Ashe property site for a multi -level facility.
Jim Michel
Lynden
Stated that he was against decentralization of government
services; urged City and County to work together on a
comprehensive plan for the civic center area.
Cal Leenstra
Pointed out that persons traveling to the Cordata site would have
to pass through the extremely congested Bellis Fair area.
Don Hansey
County Council
Pointed out that putting a new juvenile detention facility
downtown would exacerbate the parking problem; also suggested
that the Ashe property might be better utilized as a future site
for a county administration building.
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Tim Douglas
City Mayor
Stated that City Planning Director Bill Geyer's memo addressed
the parking issue; asked County to consider the overhead costs
involved in traveling back and forth to a facility located
outside the central area.
Paul Rushing
County Public Works Director
Pointed out that the Trillium Corporations' donation of the 6.9
acres was made only after the property had been turned down by
the Port of Bellingham, and that the County had asked Trillium
for the land.
The meeting was adjourned at 4:10 p.m.
WHATCOM COUNTY COUNCIL
WHATCOM COUNTY, WASHINGTON
Daniel M. Warner, Chair
Finance Committee
ATTEST:
Carol Ebergson
Clerk of the C uncil