HomeMy WebLinkAboutSpecial Council July 19 1993WHATCOM COUNTY COUNCIL
Special Meeting
July 19, 1993
The meeting was called to order at 7 p.m. in the Council Chambers, 1000 N.
Forest Street, by Council Chair Marge Laidlaw.
Also present: Absent:
Ken Henderson None
Dennis Vander Yacht
Bob Imhof
Dan Warner
Barbara Brenner (arrived late)
Larry Harris
HEARING
DECISION ON MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PERMIT APPLICATION
AND SHORELINE SUBSTANTIAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT APPLICATION OF
JOSEPH M. SCHECKTER FOR CHERRY POINT INDUSTRIAL PARK (AB93 -251)
Laidlaw listed the five topics to be discussed during the hearing: (1) Dock
configuration regarding safety, (2) whether the management unit is legal and in
compliance with state and federal laws, (3) staff reservations about the project related to
the Shorelines laws, (4) the interrelationship, if any, between this project and a
neighboring project, and (5) the concerns of the tribal nations.
There was discussion among Laidlaw, Harris, Warner and Henderson about the
format of the meeting. It was determined that at 9:30 p.m. the Council would evaluate
the situation, possibly closing the hearing to verbal testimony but leaving it open to
written testimony for a number of days, or the Council may make a final decision this
evening. Brenner arrived about 7:05 p.m. Civil Deputy Prosecutor Dan Gibson arrived
shortly thereafter.
Laidlaw opened the public hearing.
Wayne Schwandt, no address given: Schwandt brought several visual aids
regarding the project, and spoke of his historical association with the project dating back
several years. He spoke about the difference between the Chicago Bridge and Iron /Peter
Kiewet application some years back and the current project. He also addressed the
regulatory climate for the area over the years.
Council determined by consensus that it would address questions to each speaker
as the hearing progressed. Harris asked Schwandt a procedural /legal question, and
Gibson assisted in the clarification.
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Bob Davis, Lummi Tribe, Fisheries Department: Davis alluded to previous
comments submitted to express concerns of the Tribe. He said the project will
significantly adversely affect fish habitat, affecting harvest of that resource. He referred
to treaty fishing rights, saying the pier would violate them, and explained the traditional
use of these areas for fishing. He said the Tribe would fight if necessary.
Harriet Beale, Water Resource Manager, Lummi Nation: Beale spoke regarding
the Cherry Point Management Unit. She said federal agencies (National Marine
Fisheries, U.S. Fish and Wildlife) wanted this area to be preserved as aquatic; she
presented documentation from 1988 to back up this assertion. Therefore, she said, the
Whatcom County plan not only violates federal plans, but also requires federal
permitting that it has not received. The Cherry Point Management Plan amendment
should be rescinded, she said. Additionally, she said the permit condition for an
adequate water supply has not been met. Further, she indicated that the interruption of
shoreline drift, which was a major issue in the CBI project, is still at issue. The Tribe
recommended that the management plan should be rescinded, and the permits
(shorelines and major development) should be denied.
Brenner asked Gibson for a legal opinion on several points raised by Beale. .
Gibson declined to answer at this time, citing the difficulty and complexity of the issue.
David Schmalz, 2406 Spruce Street, North Cascades Audubon Society: Schmalz
said his organization does not oppose industrial development on the uplands of Cherry
Point, but it does oppose the construction of this pier due to the adverse, and potentially
adverse, impacts to the ecology of the site. He spoke to the Washington State Shorelines
Management Act which says permitted uses shall be conducted in a manner to minimize
damage to the environment and interference of the public's use of the water. He said
this may be the last potential deep water developable port available, but he said
alternative sites for the types of cargo being brought into this port are available. He cited
his views on the project, quoted the staff report, state law, etc. in order to support his
assertions. He talked about the possible precedent that would be set by approval of the
permit.
Bob Wiesen, 3334 Douglas Road, Ferndale: Wiesen favored the proposed project.
The kinds of jobs and economic development this project will bring to the County are
needed. The zoning for this area has been for heavy industry since the mid 1970s, he
said. He spoke to the claims that wildlife habitat will be reduced.
Mitch Friedman, 1155 North State Street, Greater Ecosystem Alliance: Friedman
spoke of the danger of big industry that would destroy environment and quality of life.
Protecting the environment is the key to the County's economic health.
Steve Irving, 6030 North Star Road, Ferndale: Irving said the fisheries aspect is
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important to the County's economy. A single pier that could do the work of two would
be the preferred option. He wanted to address the natural heritage aspects of the area.
Mitigation factors should be made clear and strong. He mentioned property owned by
Scheckter near Lake Terrell.
James Bliss, 6886 Vista Drive, Ferndale: Bliss said he knew of one dormant well
on Scheckter's property that has adequate water capacity. Regarding herring and
shellfish, he felt the numbers of crab in the area are sufficient. He was surprised, he said,
to hear about the importance of the herring fishery. He recited the fill needed to
develop existing industrial shoreline project. Within years of these projects' completion,
the fishing improved briefly. He attributed decreased catches to over - fishing and other
poor fishing practices.
Bob Collins, 214 Highland Drive: Collins said he has done a study for vessel
traffic risk analysis for the area, but had no particular stance on the issue. He said there
is a theoretical limit to the amount of traffic for any area. That limit has not been
addressed in the Cherry Point area yet, he said, but it should be done prior to the
shoreline being studded with piers. He felt there would be a 32 percent increase of
traffic in the area and that a proportionate risk of vessel accidents is probably likely.
Brenner asked about the figures cited; Collins responded. Laidlaw asked Hearing
Examiner Ed Good to speak to the issue of the number of vessels that could increase as
a result of this matter. Good said the point Collins raised would best be kept separate
from the protocol issue he addressed in his recommendation to the Council. Discussion
ensued between Collins and Good.
Dick Ford, Seattle Attorney, 5000 Columbia, Seafirst Center: Ford represented
Scheckter. Contrary to the statement that 250,000 -ton vessels would be calling at this
facility, the pier would be located with only 75 feet of draft, he said, which would not be
adequate for vessels of that size. He pointed out that all vessels in the Puget Sound are
under the control of the Coast Guard, and they are under traffic control guidelines
similar to those used for aircraft. He urged the Council to leave risk analysis and related
traffic issues to the experts, namely the Coast Guard and others. Studies that have been
done show a low risk, relatively speaking, he said.
Brenner asked questions -about the size of ships that will be using the pier.
Warner commented on the information received in the Council's packet regarding the
foreign trade zone status of the industrial site. Harris said a previous speaker said this
project was identified as being available for bulk carrier trade, but that certain permit
approvals were not in place. Ford responded and spoke to the alternative site issue. He
said Seattle and Tacoma, for example, do not have available land for these types of
projects. Laidlaw posed questions to Ford as well, some regarding the Roberts Bank pier
and the mitigation plan.
Larry Leverson, 2691 Douglas Road, Ferndale, Anvil Corporation, representing
Scheckter: He addressed Laidlaw's question, saying the issues she raised had not been
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raised with the State Department of Fisheries.
Warner clarified the process that would need to be followed before actual final
approval of this project. Laidlaw asked if the proponents would be willing to look into
this issue and into other creative mitigation; Leverson said they did not object to that.
Harris asked about the relation between the Cherry Point Industrial Park and
Pacific International Terminal piers. Ford responded, speaking to offers that have been
made and discussions underway. Harris said if Pacific International Terminal agreed to
reconsider Scheckter's offer, but that the dock should be modified, would Scheckter be
open to that; Ford cautiously said yes, with conditions and under certain circumstances.
A provision restricting the shipping of coal or petroleum products to this pier could be
written into the permit, Ford said.
Warner said he did not think the Pacific International Terminal project was
relevant to the approval or disapproval of this permit. There was discussion by Laidlaw.
Harris disagreed with Warner.
Bob Tull, Bellingham /Ferndale Attorney, 119 Grand Avenue: Attorney for the
Pacific International Terminal project. A packet of information was distributed by Tull.
Laidlaw asked if this information was expected to be absorbed in one evening. The
Council pointed out that Ford's information was distributed by July 15. Tull said no, he
did not expect immediate absorption of the material.
Tull produced diagrams on poster board of the Pacific International Terminal
project. Brenner said she objected to discussing the Pacific International Terminal's
proposal that evening. Brenner and Warner discussed the relevance. Warner said he
understood the Pacific International Terminal proponents were concerned because the
approval of this project may impact the potential approval of Pacific International
Terminal. Harris said he was interested in the link between the two projects, and he
wanted to establish whether there was any active negotiation ongoing between the two
companies. Tull said they are two entirely separate projects. He asked that the Council
not assume he was going to improperly address the Pacific International Terminal
project. He said he was present to address issues in the public hearing notice. He agreed
to primarily address the current project, not the pending one belonging to his clients.
Tull said Pacific International Terminal firmly believes dock access could be made
available to all of Scheckter's clients on an economic basis.
Regarding the Cherry Point Management Unit, Tull spoke briefly. He said the
packet he distributed contained a two -page summary of points, and the rest of the packet
was information already on file.
Joseph Scheckter, one of the developers of the Cherry Point Industrial Park:
Scheckter made himself available to answer questions and make clarification. He said no
deal is under discussion between Cherry Point Industrial Park and Pacific International
Terminal. He said he would be happy to make all correspondence on this issue available
to the Council, if requested. It doesn't make sense to merge the two projects, he said.
One problem he said that he had was Pacific International Terminal's exclusive
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association with union workers. While he has nothing against unions, he said he felt it
was unnecessary to create a monopoly on workers.
Tull objected, wondering why Scheckter could speak to Pacific International
Terminal's proposal when Tull could not speak to Scheckter's proposal. Comments were
made by Laidlaw and Warner that Mr. Scheckter was responding to specific questions
regarding the Cherry Point Industrial Park project and that Pacific International
Terminal was only incidental.
Matt Aamot, Buildings and Codes Division: He clarified the significance of
shorelines and gave the background of some of the local legislation and the Cherry Point
Management Unit.
Warner said the staff's concern was that there ought not to be a multiplicity of
piers. Aamot agreed there is a limit to the number of piers that should be allowed on a
shoreline of statewide significance. Henderson commented. There was extensive
discussion about the appropriateness of the location of the pier and other issues among .
Aamot, Henderson, Good, Warner, Brenner, Laidlaw, and Buildings and Codes
Administrator Nate Brown.
Janet Adams, 1133 Humbolt Street: Adams asked some clarifying questions about
the process and documents on file. She spoke on behalf of the League of Women Voters
about the League's views on shoreline development and the Cherry Point unit itself.
Adams raised the issue of Growth Management saying she believes the proposed
development is urban growth outside the Urban Growth Boundary.
Laidlaw, Warner, and Brenner commented. It was also indicated that Growth
Management Act's urban growth boundary sections do not conflict with this project.
Phyllis Graham, Birch Bay: Graham said she recalled that the State formerly said
it would approve only one pier at Cherry Point. She reviewed materials she has at her
home regarding Cherry Point dating to the 1970's. She distributed a letter (on file). She
urged that only one more pier be added to the area.
John Munson, 2195 Lummi Shore Drive: Munson spoke on behalf of the
International Longshoreman's Union. He said he wanted to speak to Scheckter's
assertions that there are advantages or disadvantages of using union labor.
Warner and Laidlaw urged him to speak to Scheckter directly, saying that the
Council was not involved in the questions Munson was asking. He spoke about the type
of development that would be allowed in the County.
Dale Griggs, Director of Fisheries for the Nooksack Tribe: Griggs spoke about
the fishing rights in the area and the income impacts that would result if a dock were
built. He said he felt there would be a net loss of jobs.
Imhof asked how Griggs figured the dock would result in a net loss of jobs. Imhof
said he felt docks create an ecosystem all their own. Griggs responded.
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Martin Keeley, representing the Washington Environmental Council: Keeley
expressed concerns about containment /cleanup plans that are needed but that are
lacking here. Mitigation also was discussed regarding the shoreline and the industrial
park. He asked that the memo containing these items include a prohibition on shipping
coal, oil, or hazardous material.
Herman Almojera, Ferndale, Nooksack Tribe: Almojera spoke to the loss of work
for fishermen who lose their gear when a ship runs through the lines and nets and that
their fishing time is cut short when ships arrive and leave. He said he wanted to make
sure that liability is a part of the process
Sherilyn Wells, 1020 Geneva: Wells said this is an example of previous Councils'
failure to address Cherry Point's value. The Council is being asked to decide the merits
of a project without the underlying regulations in place, she said. Treaties and other
older laws that pre -date laws that have come into being since that time should be given
more merit. She urged the Council to strongly consider that this is a Public Trust
Doctrine issue. Resolution of unresolved issues should precede a decision .on this issue,
she said.
Laidlaw closed the hearing at about 9:20 p.m.
Laidlaw asked Gibson to elaborate on the Federal approval question. Gibson said
there is a two- tiered process of approval, with a short -cut for approval. The state sought
the "quick and dirty approval," but the Federal Government denied it, asking that longer
review take place, Gibson said. Federal approval was not pursued because it was felt that
approval should be sought on a case -by -case basis. Brenner, Warner, Laidlaw and Imhof
commented.
Henderson asked Buildings and Code staff about committing to approval of other
sites that may later receive County review. Brown responded. Comments were made by
Warner, Brenner, Henderson and Laidlaw. There was discussion about limiting
development to only one dock in the area.
Laidlaw asked Tom Anderson, Manager of Public Utility District No. 1, to
comment. Anderson said the Public Utility District feels there is adequate water supply
for Cherry Point, and it would be Nooksack River water, he said.
Brenner called upon Brown to comment on the regulatory responsibility of his
department. Brown said the department knew when the staff report was written that the
issues were difficult. The prioritization of the projects was a side evaluation, he said.
IMHOF MOVED TO APPROVE THE MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PERMIT
AND SHORELINES SUBSTANTIAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT APPLICATION
FOR CHERRY POINT INDUSTRIAL PARK AS PER THE HEARING
EXAMINER'S DECISION AND RECOMMENDATION, AND WITH THE
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT CONDITIONS INCLUDED.
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Laidlaw clarified that the motion included adoption of the mitigating measures in
the draft and final Environmental Impact Statement.
BRENNER MOVED TO AMEND THE MOTION TO ADD THAT
SCHECKTER WILL MITIGATE WETLAND DISTURBANCE ON THE SITE BY
ENHANCEMENT OF THE LAKE TERRELL PROPERTY THAT HE OWNS.
Warner spoke to the amendment. Brenner responded. Ford was recognized from
the audience, and he commented. Gibson said the amendments made must be supported
by findings of fact. Imhof, Warner and Brenner commented.
Brenner withdrew her motion.
Henderson suggested the Council prepare written proposals with specific
amendments and then discuss them. He recommended having this vote take place at the
July 27 meeting. Harris agreed, speaking against "slap- dash" amendments. Brown also
requested being able to present a distillation of the issues contained in the
Environmental Impact Statement. Council accepted his offer. Imhof restated and
amended his motion as follows:
IMHOF MOVED TO APPROVE THE MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PERMIT
AND SHORELINES SUBSTANTIAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT APPLICATION
FOR CHERRY POINT INDUSTRIAL PARK AS PER THE HEARING
EXAMINER'S DECISION AND RECOMMENDATION, AND WITH THE EIS
CONDITIONS INCLUDED, PROVIDED THAT TO INCLUDE THE MATTER
WOULD BE HELD OVER TO AUGUST 3 TO ALLOW FOR WRITTEN
AMENDMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF THIS MATTER AT THAT TIME.
It was clarified that motions should be submitted by the packet deadline for the
August 3 meeting. Henderson asked that only amendments proposed by the packet
deadline, in writing, should be considered.
Imhof withdrew the motion.
There was discussion.
IMHOF MOVED TO HAVE WRITTEN COMMENTS SUBMITTED TO THE
CLERK OR TO THE CHAIR BY JULY 27 FOR INCLUSION IN THE AUGUST 3
PACKET.
Brown restated his offer, above, adding that the report would be ready by July 27.
There was no vote on Imhof's motion.
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Laidlaw adjourned the meeting at about 10 p.m.
ATTEST:
WHATCOM COUNTY COUNCIL
WHATCOM COUNTY, WASHINGTON
Ramona Reeves, Clerk of the Council Marge 'dlaw, Council Chair
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