HomeMy WebLinkAboutSpecial Council August 8 1995WHATCOM COUNTY COUNCIL
SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING
WORK SESSION
August 8, 1995
The meeting was called to order at 10:07 a.m, by Council Chair Robert Imhof in
the Multi- Purpose Room, 311 Grand Avenue.
Also Present: Absent:
Marlene Dawson None
Larry Harris
Alvin Starkenburg
Ken Henderson
Ward Nelson
Barbara Brenner (late)
SPECIAL ORDER, OF BUSINESS
1. PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF WHATCOM COUNTY
DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, CHAPTER 2, STORMWATER
MANAGEMENT (VERSION DATED JULY 1995) (AB95 -325)
.Nate Brown, Public Works, opened the discussion by reviewing the origins of the
Technical Advisory Committee. The committee members introduced themselves:
Derrick Holzl, Engineer
Pat Jones, Civil Engineer
Philip Whitson, Geologist
George Raper, Land Surveyor
Dan Sturtz for Larry Steele & Associates, Land Survey /Land Use Technician
Jay Gordon, Technical & Environmental Engineer
Albert Doan, Architect (absent)
Brown resumed by stating that the Stormwater Program is designed to be flexible
and incorporates best management practices from the Department of Ecology Manual,
which is based on several sources of information. Much work went into this packet.
Terry Galvin, Planning, spoke to the proposed development standards. A format
handout was distributed (on file).
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1 Dan Gibson, Council's counsel, responded to the prior question of whether the
2 Council has the authority to delegate the responsibility of the actions taken to the
3 Technical Advisory Committee by turning the discussion over to Karen Frakes,
4 Prosecuting Attorney. Frakes discussed her review of Rolf Beckhusen's memo. She
5 noted, in her opinion, he misstated the issue, which throws his entire analysis off.
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7 Galvin noted that his department attempts to ensure consistency of the standards
8 with the regulations by developing everything before it reaches the Council for final
9 approval, but there will be a preliminary phase where Planning comes before the Council
10 with the regulations conceptually. Council may amend or give direction to Planning, and
11 then Planning develops the standards with the Technical Advisory Committee. The final
12 form is then presented to the Council, whereupon the formal approval process is
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15 Pat Jones spoke to his understanding of the work completed by this committee.
16 Phil Whitson also commented.
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18 Brown felt the enabling ordinance gives the Technical Advisory Committee only
19 certain authorities. He was concerned .the committee would be going beyond their
20 authority when it is relied upon to make other recommendations, although he also felt
21 the committee members were very capable. Brown would support additional expanded
22 responsibility to the committee.
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24 Nelson suggested adopting a resolution giving the Planning Department direction.
25 Brown stated he had no problem with that.
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27 Bob Woods, Council Budget and Program Analyst, suggested an executive order
28 laying out the procedure which would bypass the Planning Commission but would codify
29 the procedure in the Administrative Manual.
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31 Jeff Monsen, Public Works Director, stated that Public Works will be reviewing
32 the stormwater management standards /regulations. Imhof stated he and others would
33 confer with Brown to discuss the necessity of a resolution.
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35 Galvin reported that any development permit application will be submitted for
36 review. There will then be three environmental review processes: critical areas
37 ordinance (CAO); State Environmental Protection Agency (SEPA); and shorelines.
38 Once the review process has been completed, the next review will be for erosion
39 sedimentation control. A large development will require permanent stormwater
40 management, which will be under the jurisdiction of Public Works. A small development
41 will be reviewed under land clearing.
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Roger McCarthy, Engineering, ran through a couple of scenarios of how the
process will work. Pat Jones offered his insights into this process. He noted that the
variables are complex and interrelated.
Those commenting included:
Ed Good, Hearing Examiner
Dan Sturtz for Larry Steele
Jay Gordon
Phil Whitson
Bob Andersen (handout provided)
Harris thanked the Technical Advisory Committee for all their work.
Imhof stated this item will be scheduled for adoption at the September 5 meeting.
(Clerk's Note: At this point, the meeting was adjourned at 11:35 cam. The next
item, flow control, will be discussed beginning at I p.m.)
2. DISCUSSION REGARDING FLOW CONTROL
Imhof called this portion of the meeting to order at 1 p.m. He gave a brief
background of Flow Control and asked where it will go from here. Are the priorities
that were set six years ago and voted upon three times in the last year and a half still
valid from Council's standpoint? He asked the Council to consider whether reduction is
priority number one.
A discussion followed about where and how to proceed. Imhof noted one of the
reasons for this work session is to define "recycling ".
Reduction, recycling and composting were discussed at length, as well as the
hierarchy. Dan Gibson, Council's counsel, commented on the legality of hierarchy.
Harris thought the Council was mixing process with standards. He referred the
members to Jeff Monsen's letter of August 3, which stated the County has three basic
options available as to the scope of regulated solid waste control:
"1. Continue to actively promote certain waste handling /disposal methods in
selecting what vendors are allowed to operate at any given time;
2. Establish a performance standard, without preference to any handling or
disposal method, that all vendors must achieve in order to be allowed to operate; or,
3. The only vendor requirement is collection of a surcharge."
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Again, Harris thought it was time to discuss recycling, economic and
environmental standards. There was discussion on the members' various opinions.
Jeff Monsen, Public Works, commented on the concept of the performance
standards.
Imhof asked if the Council is going to give direction regarding setting priorities.
If so, then ask staff to meet with the Prosecuting Attorney's Office, etc., to create an
ordinance and bring it before the Council.
Imhof moved to stay with some sort of hierarchy. considering economics,
competition and new technologies. His preference is to continue with the present
priority level, allowing staff to change it to make the process work and move on from
there.
Brenner suggested having hierarchy priority number one as reduction, number two
as recycling and numbers two through eight as other (all these items were written on the
board) and let staff come back with what is legally defensible.
Discussion followed with Monsen, Gibson and Council members. The Council
members then discussed their comments about which direction they would like to see
this issue go.
Imhof moved to continue with the present priority levels and allow staff to create
documents that will be legally defensible and that can be workable with this resolution,
having competition, cost containment and enhances new technology, and then the
Council can move forward with this issue.
Imhof restated the motion supporting number one of Monsen's letter (see above).
He asked for a show of hands.
Imhof, Nelson and Starkenburg raised their hands.
Imhof asked those in favor of number two (of Monsen's letter as above).
Brenner, Henderson, Dawson and Harris raised their hands.
Imhof told Monsen he would contact Monsen about the timeline for this issue.
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ADJOURN
The meeting was adjourned at 2:10 p.m.
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