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DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee
minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they
are not the final approved minutes.
WHATCOM COUNTY COUNCIL
Public Works and Capital Projects Committee
June 18, 2002
The meeting was called to order at 1:50 p.m. by Committee Chair Barbara
Brenner in the Council Chambers, 311 Grand Avenue, Bellingham, Washington,
Present: Absent:
Laurie Caskey- Schreiber None
Sam Crawford
Also Present:
Dan McShane
COMMITTEE DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL
1. WORK SESSION ON THE PROPOSED 2003 -2008 SIX -YEAR
TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM (AB2002 -239)
Bruce Mills, Assistant Director of Engineering, stated that by law, the County
has to adopt a six -year transportation improvement program each year. It is a
planning document for the next six years. The one they are looking at this year will
be for the years 2003 through 2008. He submitted a draft copy of the plan and a
map.
When they know the type of matching funds they are going to get, the first
one or two years of the six -year plan is set. They know what type of projects
they've received grants for. As they go further into the program, it becomes a wish
list. Staff puts together this list by going through a priority array. They look at all
of the roads in the county to determine the types of accidents that have occurred,
the condition of the roads, the width of the roads, and other factors.
The discussion is to give the Council an opportunity to look at the draft, ask
some questions, and allow the public to give some input. One group from Point
Roberts wants to talk about trails. He's hopeful that comments would be back to
him by July 2. There will be a public hearing on July 16.
Roy stated she's had phone calls from the Blaine Mayor and the Birch Bay
Planning Subcommittee Chair about Lincoln Road. Mills stated he's moved that
project up on the list.
Caskey- Schreiber asked what the circles represent on the map. Mills stated
the circles on the map represent bridges or intersections that they are looking to
approve. The blue lines indicate the projects they intend to work on in 2003.
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are not the final approved minutes.
Caskey- Schreiber stated they need a signal at the intersection of E. Pole and
Hannegan roads. That intersection backs up for a mile and a half every night. It is
a nightmare. Mills stated that two years ago, the State asked him if the County
would be willing to cost -share in a signal there. Pole Road is a State route.
Hannegan Road is a County road. He told the State that the County would be
willing to do that. He has not heard from the State since. He will contact the State
to find out what is going on.
McShane referenced the Lincoln Road, project number 13. He can sort of
understand the rationale of why they might want to put a road there. Mills stated
there is not a road to connect the Harborview and Blaine roads.
McShane stated the idea is that it would take traffic from the Drayton Harbor
and Birch Bay - Lynden Road. Mills stated that Drayton Harbor Road rated high for
needing improvements, but it is also right next to the shore, has wetlands on it,
and it will be expensive and difficult to permit and build. It seemed that this is a
more logical way to go. That way, they only have to do maintenance work on the
Drayton Harbor Road.
McShane referenced item number 45. Mills stated that project is a proposed
route to connect Birch Bay Village traffic to Semiahmoo Parkway. This will require
cooperation with the City of Blaine. The connection point will be in Blaine.
McShane asked about a possible cost share for that project. Mills stated they
could have a cost share with the City of Blaine. This is also adjacent to the
property that Trillium owns. He keeps hearing that they are going to do something
with this. It's on the list, but it depends on the developer. Typically, a developer
would have to build a road, a portion of a road, or contribute toward the County
building a road. The County does traffic mitigation for developments through
voluntary contributions. It makes it difficult to negotiate because it is not a firm
impact fee. The Planning Commission is bringing forward language to the County
Council about collecting impact fees.
Brenner stated the County should not allow any more urban growth areas or
annexations with any cities that don't provide bike paths or trails into cities. There
is a County road with a great shoulder for riding a bike. As soon as it gets to the
Ferndale city limits, it becomes the most dangerous area. According to the parks
director at Hovander Homestead Park, there are no bike trails anywhere in the City
of Ferndale. No one is forcing the cities to take in more area. If they feel they can
handle it, this needs to happen. The County should have a policy about that.
Caskey- Schreiber asked where they closed off Lake Terrell Road with British
Petroleum (BP). Mills stated the County has recently done two road closures with
BP. Henry Road to the west of Powder Plant Road was closed. Also, Lonseth Road
was closed to the west. The most recent one just closed is Powder Plant Road
north of Lonseth Road, up to Aldergrove. It closed Aldergrove to Jackson Road.
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are not the final approved minutes.
Caskey- Schreiber asked if that forces cars onto Kickerville Road. Mills stated
it does. They can still access the beach from either Lonseth or Henry Roads from
Power Plant Road.
Caskey- Schreiber asked how they could access the new road. Mills stated it
is accessed mainly from Grandview Road. Rainbow Road was recently created. It
doesn't show on the map.
Brenner asked where the Trillium road vacation is located at where they want
to do residential development. Mills indicated the location on a map.
Brenner stated Trillium said that they needed the vacation because they need
to do a comprehensive industrial park, and the vacation will assist them to set up
an industrial park. Mills stated he believed that is what their intention was.
McShane stated there are three roads with green dashes on the map that are
potential connectors. He asked whether they really need to have them on the list.
He can understand the Slater- Meridian connector. There might be some logic to
the Grandview -Pole connector. They are running a road across the Nooksack flood
plain and it would require a major bridge. He asked for the reasoning of these
connectors. Mills stated they are on the list for planning purposes, not
construction. They are only there if, at some point, something draws into a more
formal plan. A couple of years ago, they came close to doing a next step plan on
the Whatcom connector. It was taken off at the last moment. The Whatcom
connector has been left as the last item on the plan for several years. The Council
can remove it from the list. If they want to take any of them off, don't take off the
Slater connector. As soon as the City figures out what to do with Cordata, they are
going to wind up getting something through there. The Grandview -Pole connector
was discussed in the context of Cherry Point development, and that it makes sense
to have an east -west connector there.
Brenner stated they do need more east -west connectors, but it would be
expensive. There is no way around it. There is a major road on either side, and it
would connect well.
Caskey- Schreiber stated there is some fertile farmland there. That route
would go through agricultural land.
Brenner stated she didn't know if it would interfere with that use. She asked
if roads are something they don't want to have in an agricultural area. Mills stated
not necessarily.
Caskey- Schreiber moved to recommend eliminating the Whatcom connector
from the plan.
Motion carried 2 -0 with Crawford absent.
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DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee
minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they
are not the final approved minutes.
Michael Rosser, Point Robert, submitted a letter (on file) regarding Tyee
Drive and Benson Road. He proposed a multi -use path within the roadway
easement that would connect the border crossing with Monument Park. The trail
loop would consist of dedicated paths and existing roadway shoulders, making a
complete loop beginning and ending at the border crossing. Fund the trail with
monies unused for the widening of Tyee Drive. He will seek State and federal funds
to develop connecting path segments that are safer and more aesthetically
appealing than roadside shoulders. This is a key factor in economic development
for Point Roberts. Also consider developing a comprehensive non - motorized
transportation plan for Point Roberts.
Brenner stated they should request that the Port of Bellingham also
contribute.
Mills stated the County can spend Road fund money within the right -of -way if
they choose to put a path in instead of a shoulder next to the road. It will cost a bit
more because it's not adjacent to the road, and the maintenance costs will be
higher. It does provide an added safety factor in separating the bikes and
pedestrians from traffic. If they make the shoulders wider, they wouldn't be able to
get Port money. He would have to ask the Port if they are interested in
contributing to a trail. They can put an item in the six -year plan for a Point Roberts
trail. It doesn't have to have a lot of money to make it eligible for the list. He will
adjust this plan to bring it forward to the Council.
Brenner stated she would like to put it on the list.
Rosser stated that goal four in the Point Roberts Subarea Plan is about
developing a trail network in Point Roberts. There is a lot of support for it. There is
money already there for it, because Tyee will not really be widened. Mills stated
they've budgeted money for Tyee, but there isn't a need to widen it right now.
Brenner asked if they could put the Tyee Drive money into this now. Mills
stated the money is just Road fund money. If it isn't used for Tyee, it will stay in
the Road fund. This is not money that has been sitting there waiting for Tyee
Drive. There is money in the Road fund at this point. The first phase of this
proposed trail is a bike path along Tyee Drive. In the future, if they do widen Tyee
Drive, this proposed project will make it cheaper to widen Tyee because they
wouldn't have to widen Tyee as much.
Brenner asked if there would be ongoing maintenance. Mills stated it
depends on the surface that they put down. If it is paved, they will hopefully only
have to do a minimal amount of sweeping.
Brenner asked what is between the road and path if the path is in the right -
of -way. Mills stated there is typically only a ditch.
Brenner asked if there have been any safety studies done about having a
good, wide shoulder. She asked if there are any statistics to show how many
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people are killed or injured by cars rather than by a ditch. She wants to see if
there is a measurable safety issue. Mills stated he would look into it.
Rosser stated he is asking also that the Benson Road right -of -way also have
a trail put through it. The road is not yet through. It is a proposed road. Much of
those easements have already been purchased. There are some small sections that
aren't purchased. If they purchase the small segments now, they can have a
completely separate trail from the main intersection of town to the other side of the
Point. That would create the Monument Park loop.
Mills indicated the location on the map. The County could purchase a
quarter -mile of right -of -way to complete the loop.
Rosser stated the transitional zones have options for development. One
option is to create trails.
Brenner stated her only concerned is whether they will limit where a road can
go if they put in trails. Mills stated they don't do separated trails. They've just put
in wide shoulders that have multiple uses.
Brenner asked if it is more efficient to do the trail when the road develops.
Mills stated it is, especially on Point Roberts. It is very costly to do construction up
there. The commitment that they are asking for is to put a path along Tyee and
supply the remaining easements or right -of -way along the westerly extension of
Benson Road.
Rosser stated that if they acquire the easements, it will make road
development for the County easier in the future. If they can simply acquire the
easements, they don't necessarily need the County to build the trail. There are
other possibilities to do that. The Parks Department put trails in Monument Park
this summer with 800 Boy Scouts. The County Parks Department is willing to take
up maintenance work. He's spoken to Roger DeSpain about it. This is part of a
bigger scheme. If the County can help them get started, there are lots of places
they can go to get funding and help.
Brenner asked Mr. Mills to look into this. Mills stated he could include it as
an item for discussion on July 16, 2002.
OTHER BUSINESS
There was no other business.
ADJOURN
The meeting adjourned at 2:30 p.m.
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DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee
minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they
are not the final approved minutes.
Jill Nixon, Minutes Transcription
ATTEST:
Dana Brown - Davis, Council Clerk
WHATCOM COUNTY COUNCIL
WHATCOM COUNTY, WASHINGTON
Barbara Brenner, Committee Chair
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