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DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee
minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they
are not the final approved minutes.
WHATCOM COUNTY COUNCIL
Natural Resources Committee
November 26, 2002
The meeting was called to order at 9:30 a.m. by Committee Chair Sharon
Roy in the Council Chambers, 311 Grand Avenue, Bellingham, Washington,
Present: Absent:
Seth Fleetwood None
Dan McShane
Also Present:
L. Ward Nelson
Sam Crawford
Laurie Caskey- Schreiber
COMMITTEE DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL
1. RESOLUTION FOR HEARING AND NOTICE OF HEARING ON SALE OF
COUNTY TAX TITLE PROPERTY, REQUEST NO. 02 -02 (A132002 -378)
Roy stated this was scheduled during the previous committee meetings.
Questions arose about this and the next two items. The Council desires to decrease
density in Sudden Valley.
Crawford stated there are three kinds of sales. These are tax title sales. He
asked if they've gone through a foreclosure sale, but no one purchased the
properties.
Debbie Hayes, Revenue Deputy III /Real Property Foreclosure, stated that is
correct.
Crawford asked if they are proposing to sell the property. Hayes stated they
are. Someone has submitted an application to purchase those properties. It is
reviewed by the Property Management Committee to determine whether it is
property the County might want to keep or put up at a public auction, which is what
the Property Management Committee recommends. The County Council must
determine whether they will move forward for public auction.
Roy stated the question of the Natural Resource Committee was whether the
County can put any development restrictions on the parcels, but the County can't
unless it buys the property. She asked if this Property Management Committee
looks at the property at the time of foreclosure. Hayes stated the Property
Management Committee does not look at them until someone submits an
application to purchase the property.
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Erika Stroebel, Resources Planner, stated she has taken a look at these
properties. They are a low priority for land preservation based on the County's
criteria. They aren't close to tributaries or are on steep slopes. If they are just
looking at density reduction, the County could purchase these parcels, and identify
higher priority parcels as substitute parcels on which they could put a covenant.
Nelson asked where the money would come from if the County purchased
this property.
Roy stated no one was considering that, but the money would come from the
Conservation Futures fund.
Nelson stated it would be better to purchase higher priority lots that can
provide a benefit to Lake Whatcom.
Roy stated that is a legitimate point. The question was about the Council's
options if it wanted to do that.
Fleetwood asked if the County could save money in the long haul by buying
this property now and swapping it later for a more critical piece of property.
Stroebel stated they are trying to avoid swapping parcels. Now, they are trying to
identify higher priority parcels as substitute parcels prior to the purchase, so they
put a restrictive covenant on the highest priority parcels as opposed to lower
priority parcels. The Water Resources Division has a recommendation for the other
84 tax title parcels to work on a joint agreement with the Sudden Valley
Community Association to purchase those parcels, similar to what they did in the
tax foreclosure auction. The process for tax title lots is different than foreclosure,
which Ms. Hayes explained.
McShane stated Sudden Valley didn't have a particular interest in these lots.
The program with Sudden Valley is good, and could be expanded beyond Sudden
Valley. As small as this might be, he questions whether they are letting
opportunities pass them by. The duties of the Property Management Committee
include considering a variety of land use and environmental things. Stroebel stated
they can substitute lots and put restrictive covenants on a high priority lot because
the County is working with Sudden Valley Community Association, which already
owns lots. When the County identifies substitute lots, it's from the pool of lots that
Sudden Valley already owns and that don't have restrictive covenants. It may be
possible to create something in the future around the watershed. Without having
parcels that someone already owns in Geneva, they are going to have to think
about it. Also consider that Sudden Valley Community Association requires dues if
the County were to own lots within Sudden Valley.
Fleetwood moved to recommend approval to the full Council.
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McShane stated they need to have the Property Management Committee
take a closer look and make a recommendation.
Fleetwood stated the County can't restrict this property. If the County buys
it, it would take money from Conservation Futures that could go elsewhere. It is a
lower priority.
Roy questioned whether the Council needs to discuss these parcels on a
different level.
McShane stated they are talking about hundreds of lots over the years for
which the County missed opportunities.
Nelson stated he has been on the Council for 12 years, and he doesn't recall
seeing hundreds of lots come forward. There have been 300 or 400 lots that had
no value out of the watershed that were developable.
McShane stated Sudden Valley came up with a very successful program. He
thinks it can expand beyond that. Sudden Valley may be interested in having these
lots developed so they have residences on these properties that will pay their dues.
There may be properties in Geneva where they could transfer development rights.
It may be a good idea to transfer development rights from a sensitive area in the
watershed to a lower priority property in the watershed.
Nelson stated there are lots that will never be developed. Another issue is
lots that are developable. The ones that have come forward that are developable
have been few and far between.
McShane stated they've talked about transferring rights from developable
lots. These three lots are developable, and someone might have a lot in Geneva
that is in a sensitive area. It might be financially beneficial for someone to give up
a development right in Geneva for a development right in Sudden Valley.
Crawford asked about the language governing tax title properties, and the
reference in the resolution about going to bid. Someone made an application to
buy the lot. Hayes stated the tax title property would go to auction and be sold to
the highest bidder. The Council will set the minimum bid.
Crawford stated that once the Council approves this, the person who put in
the application for the property does not automatically get the property because it
goes to auction. Hayes stated that is correct. At the time of foreclosure, the
minimum bid included the taxes, penalty, interest, and foreclosure costs. The
Sudden Valley Community Association is not interested in purchasing these lots.
Roy asked if someone who fills out an application and pays the application
fee has a reasonable expectation of purchasing the lot. Hayes stated the applicants
are waiting for the Council to make a decision on this. The applications were
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submitted in July. The applicants understand what takes place, what the procedure
is, and that anyone can bid against them. If the applicant is not the successful
bidder, he or she will get the application fee back.
Roy asked if the Water Resources Division has a representative on the
Property Management Committee.
McShane stated a representative from the Public Works Department, not the
Water Resources Division, is on the Property Management Committee.
Roy asked if the evaluation of the appropriateness of this property is heavily
weighted toward the priorities in Sudden Valley.
Crawford stated one criteria reviewed by the Property Management
Committee is that the public's interest is maintaining the tax roles. He is in favor of
approving the auction of these properties.
McShane stated he would vote for moving it forward because it is too much
of a pain in the neck for people to deal with. As a councilmember, he has to decide
where to put his energy. He can't take a lead on this issue and doesn't feel right
passing it on to another councilmember. He still believes this is a missed
opportunity, and the Council is going to keep seeing this situation.
Roy asked if this issue is something that the open space /transfer of
development rights (TDR) /purchase of development rights (PDR) employee could
handle.
Fleetwood stated this is an issue the Property Management Committee can
take up.
Roy stated the motion includes this item and the next two items scheduled
on the agenda.
Motion carried unanimously.
2. RESOLUTION FOR HEARING AND NOTICE OF HEARING ON SALE OF
COUNTY TAX TITLE PROPERTY, REQUEST NO. 03 -02 (AB2002 -379)
See item one.
3. RESOLUTION FOR HEARING AND NOTICE OF HEARING ON SALE OF
COUNTY TAX TITLE PROPERTY, REQUEST NO. 04 -02 (AB2002 -380)
See item one.
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COMMITTEE DISCUSSION
1. DISCUSSION REGARDING WRIA 1 WATERSHED MANAGEMENT
PROJECT - INSTREAM FLOW UPDATE (AB2002 -085)
Bruce Roll, Water Resources Division Manager, stated a strategy is going
forward to establish instream flows in water resource inventory area (WRIA) 1.
Also, the County Council was interested during the previous work session in the
status of pilot projects tied to the first draft plan. He submitted information (on
file) on those projects. Forward comments related to the pilot projects to Scarlet
Tang.
John Thompson, Resources Planner /Endangered Species Act, stated there
were two pieces of information related to instream flow in the Council's packet. He
submitted information on an overview of the instream flow documentation (on file).
He read through the memo.
There are two pieces to instream flow: maintaining functions of the stream
and the need to use water. Technical methodology is being done to define the
function piece. Data was gathered at 27 sites, which is being analyzed. Those
analyses form the basis for decision - making to select flows. They've got a range of
stream types and land uses in the basins and watersheds. A one - size - fits -all
process isn't the way to go. They need to start with good scientific data, and then
establish a process to meet the needs of individual watersheds and also achieve the
goals of the watershed management project.
(Clerk's Note: End of tape one, side A.)
An instream flow working group of local and state agencies worked on an
action plan of how they establish instream flow. The work group would like
feedback on their draft action plan in time for the December 10 meeting with the
agencies. The objective of the action plan is to identify the instream flows with the
data they have.
In step one of the action plan, Foundation Development, they would identify
how they go about establishing instream flows by including everyone who would be
affected. The second step is to identify the initial flows, using the feedback. That is
the starting point. From that information, they want to come up with a set of
recommendations for each basin. Put the recommendations before everyone
involved in WRIA. Step three is to seek agreement on the flow recommendation.
The last step is to develop and finalize the flow recommendations.
Roy asked if they have instream flow recommendations from Utah State
University (USU). Thompson stated they have some of it. They are calibrating the
models.
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Roy asked if the models would be put into the decision support system (DSS)
modeling. Thompson stated it would.
Roy asked if they would analyze basin -by -basin based on what they need for
fish, clean water, and out -of- stream uses. Thompson stated they would.
Roy asked if it goes to the caucus groups after that. Roll stated the
legislation recognizes a process for identifying instream flows, which includes
consensus. It will take two to three years to get to that point. Data models current
uses and future uses in addition to ecological models.
Roy asked if there is a step that allows review WRIA -wide. She asked if
there would be conflicts. Roll stated there would be conflicts. This is one of the
most significant pieces of the whole project.
Roll stated the governments have come up with a strategy that engages
everyone. It also engages people in the drainages.
Nelson asked why there are not criteria for what they are looking for
regarding flows. Roll stated the criteria were established in the March 2000 scope
of work.
Nelson asked the type of information that will be developed through this
process. Roll stated initial recommendations would come from a core group, based
on scientific data on instream and out -of- stream uses. Recommendations will be
based on the drainages.
McShane asked what role restoration projects will provide regarding instream
flow habitat for fish. He asked if that is taken into account at all. Thompson stated
it depends. Ideally, they would have all the factors into the DSS. They are not
there yet. They tried to pick sites that are representative of the better habitats
within the sub - basins. They are correlating how much habitat they can get for a
given amount of water. All the other factors, such as shade and woody debris, are
included in the water quality model. Part of this process will be to synthesize all the
information into a set of recommendations.
McShane stated this is the one area in the WRIA process where they are
making good progress. Thompson stated they need to gather the historical
knowledge and anecdotal information to come up with the best set of
recommendations.
Roy stated the basin -by -basin approach makes sense. Those people are
going to know those kinds of efforts that are going on in their basin. Thompson
stated they will look for opportunities to optimize instream and out -of- stream water
uses. They hope they will make more water available by doing these things. It will
depend on where they are at, the time of year, and other specifics. There also
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might be a case where people can continue using the water they use, even if no
more is available, because of these efforts.
Nelson stated the ultimate result is restoration of fish. He asked how they
quantify that goal. Thompson stated the restoration of fish is one goal. Within the
instream flow modeling, there is a quantitative relationship between flow and
habitat. They will take that information and question how to extrapolate that data
to the rest of watershed and link to fish production. They want to link these efforts
within the models to fish production models. It won't give them an answer of a
specific number of fish. It will say whether or not efforts have a positive or
negative effect.
Nelson asked if they are going to measure quantification to know the results
achieved. Roll stated that if a pilot project does not have clearly defined measures
for success, then it is not worth doing. They do pilots specifically to determine
whether or not they want to do that action. Some results may take years or
decades to see results.
Fleetwood stated this is an intelligent process. He asked for a quick
description of the various flow components, as illustrated on Council packet page
22, specifically water quality maintenance flow. Thompson stated water quality
maintenance flow is the flow needed to maintain water quality. Channel
maintenance flow is linked to fish habitat. Streams need to have occasional water
flows, equivalent to a two -year flood, that have enough volume to actually move
sediment down the stream so it shapes the channel bed. If they don't have that
flow every couple of years, sediment will accumulate and lose habitat values and
stream functions. If they have those flows too often, it will move too much
sediment through. Maintain the channel form from year to year. Riparian
maintenance flow is getting the flood plain wet so they keep the cottonwoods alive.
The valley maintenance flow is the big flood that will cover the entire valley floor.
Typically they don't manage for that in an instream flow setting. It is a big flood
that will happen anyway. It changes the availability and distribution of the habitats
within the flood area. There is an opportunity to really look at what a flood is
doing.
Fleetwood asked if managing the minimum instream flow assumes that it will
incorporate all these flow components. Thompson stated the concept of ecological
flow regime is that it will accommodate all the components. They are trying to
emulate what the natural hydrograph does. Here, they are trying to identify a
range of flows instead of one number.
Fleetwood asked where they are at with water rights, and when they can
present a plan to the public. Roll stated it will hopefully be in the plan due June
2003.
Fleetwood asked if they expect to contemplate the number of affected water
rights before or after they establish instream flows, and then deal with the water
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rights implications. Roll stated they would do both at the same time. The
quantities used to determine the different uses are not tied to water rights. They
are estimations based on land use, population, and those types of things. They
have tools that will provide an estimate of how much water a particular drainage is
using for out -of- stream use, independent of water rights. He's encouraged to deal
with some of the work Henry Bierlink proposes for a drainage -based management
area that can deal with movement and allocation of water within a particular
drainage area.
(Clerk's Note: End of tape one, side 8.)
Fleetwood asked if the potential of global warming is factored into this
process. Thompson stated part of the action plan does not address the total effect
of global warming, but looks at drought years and wetter years. Instream flows are
typically set at a specific number, not a range. The challenge in this process is to
provide flexibility based on the weather and water forecast.
Fleetwood asked if it is fair to call the pilot projects a part of the
methodology. Roll stated it is part of the work Parametrix is doing to develop the
first draft of the WRIA watershed management plan. Pilot projects are a chapter of
the watershed management plan.
Roll stated people at the State government are supportive of all the WRIA's.
Eight plans will be out next year, including Whatcom County's plan. The State is
thinking about contributing $100,000 for implementation purposes. Over the
course of five years, that amount would scale down to zero. Over the course of this
project, Whatcom County would have acquired $700,000 of grant money. The
State is very interested in infrastructure. There is a strong interest in WRIA 1
piloting an irrigation district management project.
Caskey- Schreiber asked if they would complete the entire Four Mile
restoration project. Roll stated he didn't know their timeline. Part of
implementation will be to get other people to be a catalyst for pilot projects. A big
piece of the government's work will be to work with these groups.
(Clerk's Note: Discussion continued below.)
3. DISCUSSION REGARDING THE WHATCOM COUNTY MARINE
RESOURCES GRANT APPLICATION (AB2002 -085)
Roll stated the Marine Resources Committee is required to notify the County
Council when it applies for a grant. It is a continuation of existing projects and
funding for new projects.
1. DISCUSSION REGARDING WRIA 1 WATERSHED MANAGEMENT
PROJECT - INSTREAM FLOW UPDATE (AB2002 -085)
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(Clerk's Note: Discussion continued from above.)
Roll asked if there are any legal questions regarding instream flow.
Caskey - Schreiber asked what would happen if a farmer takes too much water
out of a channel that needs more water to be viable, with the result being the
farmer losing his ability to continue to farm. She asked if the County would be
liable for taking away the farmer's livelihood.
Dan Gibson, Senior Civil Deputy Prosecutor, stated there is an issue of junior
and senior water rights. Courts will determine where in the priority scheme the
rights lie. If established by the court, there would not be a liability.
Caskey- Schreiber asked if it is a scenario that could realistically happen.
Gibson stated it is possible that there could be an agreement that establishes
instream flows and that assigns a priority date to certain natural resource uses or
to certain tribal uses. There will be intense politics that would go into plan
approval. That scenario is conceivable. A political goal is to provide as much water
as possible to agricultural users consistent with environmental requirements.
2. DISCUSSION REGARDING LAKE WHATCOM MANAGEMENT — SUDDEN
VALLEY COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION AGREEMENT (AB2002 -085)
Erika Stroebel, Resource Planner, stated the County Treasurer is holding 84
additional tax title lots. The Water Resources Division staff recommendation is to
pursue a joint agreement with the Sudden Valley Community Association to
evaluate these properties, jointly purchase the properties, and place restrictive
covenants on high priority parcels. The restrictive covenant would be placed on the
purchased parcel or a substitute parcel.
The process for tax title properties is different than tax foreclosure. It can be
more time consuming. They recommend pursuing this now because the Water
District 10 utility local improvement district (ULID) is coming up in December.
Groups need to determine whether or not they can pay the assessment fee to hook
up to sewer in the next 25 years. If they are parcels that the County is interested
in for protecting and placing restrictive covenants on, then they need to work with
Water District 10 on it. Pursue a joint agreement with Sudden Valley. She asked
for guidance from the committee on whether or not the staff should pursue this
option.
The committee concurred.
Caskey- Schreiber suggested that the County funnel any money received
above and beyond the County's cost to Water Resources Division to address this
issue.
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Stroebel stated that in previous years, there hadn't been a lot of activity by
private individuals to purchase tax foreclosures. This year, they were only able to
purchase about 24 of those lots out of 61 because there were other bidders. There
is a lot of interest in Sudden Valley properties right now. The tax title properties
would go up to public auction again.
Steve Oliver, Chief Deputy Treasurer, stated the Treasurer could sell lots by
negotiation. It is discussed in Barbara Cory's memo. There may be statutory
requirements about who is entitled to the surplus. If a parcel is sold at foreclosure,
the surplus goes to the property owner who foreclosed. He will check the statute to
see if that is true in a tax title situation. There is a process, a sale by negotiation,
to acquire these lots through negotiation as opposed to a public sale. A sale to the
County for a public purpose would meet a condition to allow a sale by negotiation.
ADJOURN
The meeting adjourned at 11:37 a.m.
Jill Nixon, Minutes Transcription
ATTEST:
Dana Brown - Davis, Council Clerk
WHATCOM COUNTY COUNCIL
WHATCOM COUNTY, WASHINGTON
Sharon Roy, Committee Chair
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