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HomeMy WebLinkAboutNatural Resources March 26 20021 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. WHATCOM COUNTY COUNCIL Natural Resources Committee March 26, 2002 The meeting was called to order at 9:30 a.m. by Committee Chair Dan McShane in the Council Chambers, 311 Grand Avenue, Bellingham, Washington. Present: Absent: Seth Fleetwood None Sharon Roy Also Present: L. Ward Nelson Laurie Caskey- Schreiber COMMITTEE DISCUSSION 1. SPECIAL PRESENTATION ON THE CURRENT ACTIVITIES OF THE AGRICULTURAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE (AB2002 -132) Kraig Olason, Senior Planner, stated the Agriculture Advisory Committee was established to assist the Council on agricultural related issues. It has been involved in the rewrite of Title 24. The work plan is a list of the key areas the committee feels need to be addressed to positively impact agriculture in Whatcom County. He will go through a proposed three -year plan. Chuck Antholt, Agriculture Advisory Committee Chairman, stated the committee took a strategic view of agriculture in Whatcom County. He hears over and over that agriculture in Whatcom County is dead. However, Whatcom County is in the top three percent of agricultural counties in the United States. A $250 million industry is not dead. He is concerned about the ownership of Agriculture Advisory Committee. He is not sure of what the Council wants the committee to do or that the Council knows what the committee can do. They need to interface to make decisions easier. Without the staff assistance of people like Mr. Olason of the Planning Department, the committee can't exist. The committee members are all farmers. They depend heavily on Mr. Olason's help. The committee has met with people to discuss the agricultural protection overlay (APO). It seems that it is not working. He asked how the Council wants the committee to respond to that. The committee has talked to the assessor. There are anomalies in the way the tax code is implemented in the county. They've also been talking about the right -to -farm laws in the county. The committee can work on that. He asked the Council to think about how the committee can help and respond to the Council. Natural Resources Committee, 3/26/2002, Page 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. The committee spent 300 hours over a year on the conditional use issues. There has been good input from the farm community on those issues. The committee provides a valuable asset. They are there to be of assistance to the Council. McShane asked why the APO is not working. Antholt stated there is one situation on Smith Road. A cluster development was put together. The covenants of the homeowners' association overwhelmed the intention of the Comprehensive Plan. The owner of the land was willing to sell to a nursery owner, who wanted to expand his nursery. The nursery owner couldn't expand because of the covenants. Olason stated that was one specific case of a person trying to use the reserve parcel for agriculture. He will analyze the rural parcelization to see how many of the remainder parcels are farmable. Another problem with the APO is that it isn't dependent upon active farming activities. It is based on the open space tax designation and soils criteria. They can't count on it to protect the agricultural resource base. When they determine how much land they need to maintain to preserve the industry, they have to rely on rural lands to make up the difference between what is zoned for agriculture and what is farmed. There are 110,000 acres that have agricultural practices. The total of what is farmed in the agricultural zone is about 67,000 acres. To come up with the 110,000 acres, they have to go elsewhere to find it. A lot of those other areas are remote, industrial, or urban. The only long -term source for farmland is rural. The committee wants to protect the agricultural land that is in rural zoning. Find lots with big enough acreage to be worthwhile, such as at least 100 acres, to be feasible for commercial agriculture. Antholt stated value -added agriculture, such as organic farming, can operate at a different scale. Fleetwood asked if the conclusion that the APO wasn't working was based on that one example. Antholt stated they've heard rumors of other cases, but that was the first actual case. Olason stated the situation is a 15 -acre parcel with a $250,000 house on it. The land becomes unaffordable to lease, and the homeowner doesn't want an agricultural use near the house. It becomes a hobby farm. For high value crops, five acres may be okay, but that land base is already there. The parcels with larger acreages are diminishing. Nelson stated an issue is defining commercial agriculture. He asked if commercial agriculture would include someone who works part time at it. Antholt stated about 300,000 U.S. farmers provide 85 percent of the agricultural gross national product. Eighty five percent of those 300,000 farmers have a spouse working off the farm. The biggest and most productive farms in the country depend in part on income from off the farm. Natural Resources Committee, 3/26/2002, Page 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. Olason stated they look at the land base. If they have the land base, the changing agricultural climate can make it viable or not viable. If they don't have the land base, they lose that option. Farms having over $100,000 in gross receipts were about 25 percent of the farms. Farms with under $10,000 in gross receipts were about 50 percent of the farms. There are about 700 fulltime farmers out of 1,300 farmers total. In general, they have a few people who manage the bulk of the land and make the bulk of the money. When they run out of commercial farming is when they have five -acre lots in agriculture /open space tax designation doesn't produce anything. The committee has chosen a list of things they have to do and can do. Beginning the process of developing a purchase of development rights (PDR) is one thing. This work plan takes those issues and programs them out over three years. The proposal looks at impacts of conversion, which affects schools, county budgets, and other things. The proposal is to also look at impacts of a reduced land base on agriculture sustainability in Whatcom County. A number of these things aren't going to be done by the committee and aren't just for agriculture. It proposes a more stable approach to dealing with land use matters. He submitted the three -year plan (on file). The first thing is the Purchase of Development Rights program. The committee will receive a draft from the consultant soon. They have to figure out how to deal with implementation of the program. The committee is working on the Comprehensive Plan amendment. The committee helped the staff with it. They will also look at the Sumas urban growth area (UGA) amendment and the Parks Department amendment. The committee hopes to have a draft Agriculture Mitigation Plan this fall. There are limited agricultural resources. If there is a legitimate proposal that will take away farmland, they have to address the loss in farmland. They want a program that maintains the agricultural base. They've looked at models from other parts of the country. There aren't a lot of models out there. That program will require implementation in some form. There is a series of studies the committee will work on. They are working with the American Farmland Trust (AFT) on a mapping project. He had preferred to do the project in- house, but they are now working on it with the University of Massachusetts over the phone. It was a pilot project from AFT, who gave the County a great deal. When they get the map, it will show a projection of land development patterns that they will see over time. The County provided the contractor building permit information so they can look at where things are developing. Antholt stated they put up $25,000 of their own money to do this. They are going to run simulations on it. Natural Resources Committee, 3/26/2002, Page 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. Olason stated it would be helpful to work with. It may tie into other studies. They are working with the Port of Bellingham on the Economic Profile of the agricultural sector. The Economic Impact Analysis of the agricultural sector is another study that will look at impacts on the County budget. This is part of the Port's overall study. He wanted to make sure they looked at agriculture. Antholt stated one study is on the physical impacts and one is on the economic impact to the County's budget. Olason stated the simulation model will give them an opportunity to develop a model to determine costs. The Port also funds it. Farms pay more taxes than they use in terms of services. The study will look at the costs of conversion based on taking land out of production. They will use that information to encourage better planning in the UGA's and working with the cities so they can have a transfer of development rights (TDR) program that will help offload some density. The Rural Parcel Study is another project they are working on in- house. The staff is updating the parcel layer. One problem is that the Assessor maintains the parcel, but it's not electronic. The geographic information system (GIS) base map is never up -to -date. There is an existing base map they've used since 1996, which they update periodically. The updates produce historical change information. The County might want to consider the outreach project. Get a dialog going between the cities and the County regarding the concept of UGA development, particularly TDR receiving areas. Rural lands are the in- between lands between resource lands and urban growth lands. Rural lands didn't get the best evaluation back in the Comprehensive Plan. A lot of things in rural lands could have been in agriculture lands, urban growth areas, or forestry areas. The committee will look at things like resource rural and secondary agricultural lands, which are areas that are still large enough to do some good. The committee will also look at cluster development requirements for rural lands, where there is a more concentrated development, so there isn't as much problem with the five -acre parcels spread across rural areas. They looked at the cluster design ordinance. There aren't design standards, which is an internal problem. The committee looked at Title 21 gift exemptions. The amount of gift exemptions and development that has occurred is important to know. It is a way to divide property without much review. McShane asked if the issue of gift exemptions is being driven from the committee or from staff. Olason stated everything that impacts rural will indirectly impact agriculture. The PDR Committee had to questioned whether it should focus exclusively on rural lands because it is immediately convertible, or try to buffer agricultural land from UGA expansion. The gift expansion divides twenty acres into Natural Resources Committee, 3/26/2002, Page 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. four five -acre parcels in five minutes. They need to look at if they are going to retain parcels. McShane stated the Finance Committee might be discussing budget issues as well. Olason stated the parcel study would hopefully provide information on what the development pattern will look at. A lot of what the committee is talking about in the context of a fiscal program is to figure out ways to develop that are cost effective. A couple of areas are important. The development impact issue keeps coming up. Urban service providers, such as schools, are struggling because the only source of income is from residential properties. Another question the committee faces is that of open space taxation. There are properties that have a marginal amount of farm value and are being subsidized. The Assessor says the average is $800 for five acres that is written off annually for the open space tax credit. One question is whether that development pattern meets the Comprehensive Plan policy goals and objectives. Another question is whether the County is rewarding people for not doing that, and if the County is receiving any benefit for the tax break. Nelson stated he would like to see this issue discussed sooner. He questioned why they are giving tax exemptions to people with five or ten acres. If they want to curtail this type of development, then don't provide the exemption. There is a point where the County can have a secondary agricultural protection, but they have to assess that carefully. Olason stated they are looking at the work program today with the idea that studies completed by the fall will be helpful to analyze rural lands. He showed drawings (on file) of the rural parcel update of the Grandview area and the Smith Road /Hannegan Road area, since 1995. These areas are very parcelized. In the Grandview area, 84 percent of the parcels cannot be further subdivided. It's hard to find the farms in that area. However, many of the parcels are receiving the agricultural /open space tax break. (Clerk's Note: End of tape one, side A.) Olason continued to state that the average parcel size in the Smith Road /Hannegan Road area is 6.8 acres. In addition, accessory dwellings are allowed in this area. There are Endangered Species Act (ESA) concerns here also. Sylvia Goodwin, Planning Division Manager, stated a cluster subdivision can't be done as quickly as a gift exemption. A gift exemption can be done for no charge in five minutes. That's why the County doesn't see clusters anymore. There is a disincentive to cluster. Natural Resources Committee, 3/26/2002, Page 5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. Olason stated the 20 -acre parcels are what can be divided quickly. Through the process of looking at the rural areas, they want to decide whether there are any areas remaining that they should protect and whether they want to have permanence in the agriculture and rural zoning. Roy asked if these two areas are samples of what is happening throughout the county. Olason stated the area at Grandview Road is an extreme case, but not that much compared to other areas. McShane stated the work plan looks good. All the projects make sense and tie together. Nelson stated it's been said that just preserving land won't preserve agriculture in the community. A significant issue is going to be water rights. The committee needs to evaluate what they need to keep agriculture functioning. He asked if discussing impact fees is something that the administration proposes. Olason stated it is coming strictly from the advisory committee. They are looking at subsidizing costs. If they want to discourage development, they shouldn't subsidize the costs. Nelson stated they need to understand what they are trying to accomplish with impact fees, what the current costs are, and what they currently take. Goodwin stated the Planning Commission recently discussed the Transportation Chapter of the Comprehensive Plan, and how to fund some of these proposals. The Commission will recommend that the County begin to look seriously at impact fees. The staff has had several discussions with the administration about balancing the County's budget. Impact fees keep coming up as an option, particularly transportation impact fees. The Mount Baker, Nooksack Valley, and Meridian school districts are really suffering from lack of revenues. Impact fees could help out with that. Antholt stated that, regarding water, they would all put water issues at the top of the priority list. However, they have to address what they can have an impact on. A lot of the water issues are State and federal jurisdiction. McShane stated the County Council needs to play a major role in water issues. Without the County participating to make sure there is water for farmers, agricultural uses will lose water. It competes with a group of people who are not cohesive and who are working in different fields, versus municipal corporations that put a lot of money and time into it. Roy asked if the committee has a sense of direction resulting from this conversation, or if they need further discussion. Antholt stated both are true. The issue of open space taxes and defining agriculture is important. Natural Resources Committee, 3/26/2002, Page 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. Roy stated every issue on the list is important. She asked how the volunteer committee gets the work in the plan done. Antholt stated it doesn't. It causes the work to be done by others. Olason stated they would engage as many agencies as possible. That is an example of how much people are behind these issues. McShane stated he questioned whether there is the political will to get these things done. He suggested that the committee talks to the councilmembers individually to see if there is support, as the items come forward. Olason stated they would outreach to the cities to get them engaged in TDR's. Rich Emerson, Building Industry Association (BIA), stated there is a pattern of development that concerns him. The issue is preservation of agricultural land. It is a concern because of development taking place in that area. The BIA would like to be involved in discussions on impact fees and how to remedy the pattern of development. The more isolated that people are, the higher the impact fees, and the higher the cost of housing. BIA efforts are to promote affordable housing. The cluster plan makes sense to him, and it would make sense to builders and developers if they understand it. There is an education process for the builders that the BIA can help with. COMMITTEE DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL 1. DISCUSSION REGARDING THE WRIA 1 WATERSHED MANAGEMENT PROJECT (AB2002 -085) Bruce Roll, Water Resources Division Manager, stated he needs direction on three items. The first is about instream flows. They have been spending time and resources to collect scientific information to evaluate instream flows. The next part is to take the science and create a management strategy for the entire water resource inventory area (WRIA). John Thompson, Resources Planner - Endangered Species Act (ESA), stated the instream flow component has been technically focused. To gather data, they worked with local fisheries folks to get information on flows and topography. A computer model will model what sort of fish habitat would be at different flow levels. Instream flow analyses look at the minimum low flow. Here, they are looking at an ecological flow regime, which is a minimum flow level, the amount of flow it takes to maintain the channel and fish habitat, and the flow necessary for healthy riparian zones. One extrapolation workshop is to discuss the data to determine the most appropriate way to extrapolate data from one area to another area without Natural Resources Committee, 3/26/2002, Page 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. detailed data. From that workshop, there will be a technical paper providing those recommendations. That leads to the second workshop, the instream flow selection methodology symposium. It's not focused on technical data, but on making management decisions from the data. The objective of the symposium is to discuss technical, legal, and policy issues. They want to learn from others' experiences. Members will brainstorm and offer solutions. Nelson asked how they derived the panel participants. Thompson stated the various participants in the watershed management project, including the Initiating Governments, the Planning Unit, and caucus members, suggested them. They opened it up to whomever they knew of that were qualified. Nelson stated the selection of participants is excellent. He would like to see County staff as representatives. Roy stated the tribal representatives are not included in the technical or legal panel discussions. Thompson stated there are representatives on the legal panel from the two tribes. On the technical panel, they are focusing strictly on those who have technical expertise. The outcome of the workshop will not be a set of instream flows in the basin. The outcome is to educate the community on what needs to be done. They are going to turn this discussion into an issue paper or proposal on how to recommend going about selecting flows. Typically, flow selection is focused on fisheries issues, which will be a major emphasis. Other beneficial uses for instream flows include the City of Bellingham's middle fork division. If they don't divert, then no water is available for Lynden, the Public Utility District (PUD) 1, or for agricultural withdraw. They are trying to set up a process to select flows. With the fish flows, they will come up with a range of flows, one point being the optimum flow, that are ideal. He encouraged the councilmembers to participate. Fleetwood asked if the term "management decisions" refers to the process of setting the flows. Thompson stated it refers to management options. Fleetwood asked what happens when the management options and decisions are made. Thompson stated instream flows are set for many streams in the basin. Part of the technical evaluation includes looking at the flows they've been modeling and comparing them to what the flows have already been set at. The selection process allows them to evaluate the best flow regime for a stream. Then there is an opportunity to go to the State Department of Ecology (DOE) to reset the established flows. It is a community -based negotiation to set instream flows without going through adjudication. Fleetwood asked if the State would be obligated to reset the flows. Roll stated the Revised Code of Washington (RCW) for plan development requires a consensus of the governments. The County Council would ultimately approve the plan. The instream flow process follows a similar process, which would obligate Natural Resources Committee, 3/26/2002, Page 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. DOE to go through the necessary rulemaking to establish new instream flows for the basin. He's not sure about the relationship between the Council's engagement on the instream flow component. The plan goes through the Council. If there is plan approval, DOE is obligated in the RCW to go through the process and make the changes. McShane asked if they considered including the Bureau of Reclamation. Thompson stated they discussed it, but he wasn't sure they were available. He will invite them. McShane stated they are a neutral organization with water expertise. John Sproul, Program Specialist - Watershed, stated there are three action items for which the staff needs a decision. The first item is the Utah State University (USU) surface water quantity report. It is a batch of four reports. They are all to integrate with the other elements of the phase II deliverables. This is the first batch of the phase II reports that have reached this stage. The background work for phase II leads to development and integration of the models for the decision - support system and related work. The Water Quantity Technical Team recommends approval as the final product. (Clerk's Note: End of tape one, side B.) Sproul continued to state that the four water quantity deliverables complement one another. The first is USU's technical assessment, which looked at all the stream flow gauges, identified what information is available, and how to best use it in the context of watershed planning. The next deliverable was the estimate of long -term mean monthly runoff. That estimate was a component of the third deliverable, which was estimation of surface water quantity for the water balance. The fourth deliverable was to determine how to best utilize that existing information to address watershed management concerns. They looked at decision - support system questions and made recommendations for some specific models. Fleetwood asked for an explanation of "estimation of long -term mean monthly runoff for the water balance calculation." Sproul stated it is the amount of water flowing off a particular surface - delineated area. The second deliverable looks at the mean monthly runoff for all 181 drainages. The modeling exercise for surface water quantity will be drainage -by- drainage. Roy asked if the model is based on sampling. Sproul stated the very first deliverable refers to the assessment of stream flow. It looks at actual stream gauges. It is the data that the runoff estimates were built upon. McShane stated one way to describe it is that it's a model to predict runoff based on the amount of precipitation in an area and the land use. In some instances, they actually measure the amount to see how well the model is working. Natural Resources Committee, 3/26/2002, Page 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. Sproul stated it's important to know that management decisions include relative comparisons where they recognize data limitations. They will pursue long- term data collection efforts that can populate this modeling exercise. When using comparison analysis, they will have statistical inferences to let them know a range of defensibility. They've attempted to have the decision support system visual, so the user can appreciate the strengths and weaknesses of the data throughout the different components. Nelson asked if New Zealand is the only area that has applied this model system. Sproul stated it is not the only area. He doesn't know the details, but it is a widely accepted model. They are adding detailed specifics to this model to make it more applicable to this area. It is a widely accepted and highly recognized model. Roll stated the technical teams have made sure that the models used are out of common literature and used commonly. One task in phase II is model selection. McShane moved to recommend approval to the full Council of the surface water quantity deliverables one through four. Motion carried unanimously. Sproul stated the second item for approval is the Watershed Solutions Subcommittee materials. One of the products of the WRIA process was an overall scope of work. A part of that overall scope of work included process pieces. They identified categories of criteria for looking at management solutions as they move toward development of the plan. The outline of the criteria is already approved through the final scope of work. The subcommittee worked on flushing it out. The latest version of the effort is included in the Council packet. Parametrix will run a test to see if it works, refine it, and then recommend working criteria. This is a draft that will be revised. The second piece that accompanies that includes the criteria for applying it. Nelson stated this is the most important thing that needs to be developed correctly. He is concerned that the criteria are not weighted. Sproul stated the subcommittee felt they wanted to get the draft out to the participants to work over. They did not want to weight one over the other at this stage. This is a first step. The next step is for Parametrix to apply draft criteria to management solution options to see how it works. The Planning Unit caucuses would then address these concerns. Roll stated this is the first draft. The goal is to move it forward to refine it if the group has problems with it. Councilmember Nelson's concern is a good recommendation for the group to work on. The goal is to get incremental buy -in. Natural Resources Committee, 3/26/2002, Page 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. Roy stated the process makes sense if they are working for consensus. If they put too much weight on the criteria in the beginning, they will not achieve consensus. Eventually, they will need the weights. Sproul stated the subcommittee had this same conversation. McShane moved to recommend approval of the draft proposed general evaluation criteria for proposed watershed solutions and the proposed process and protocol for application of general evaluation criteria. Nelson stated he needs to know the next step in the process. He asked how they are going to support the decisions. Sproul stated the information is in element five on Council packet page 30. The criteria will act as a general guide while the consultant will provide more detailed versions of their criteria and specify data sets, which are needed for performing evaluations. The Parametrix scope of work lays out the timetable explicitly. Motion carried unanimously. Sproul stated Dr. Roll would talk about the last item needing approval. Roll stated the process has been successful because they have separated issues from positions. They spend most of their time and energy addressing the issues, and then craft solutions. The process and procedural document that they all approved talks about how they operate in the decision - making process. They agreed not to tag comments to a specific caucus in the meeting summaries. There is a desire by one or two caucuses to identify those comments. At any decision point, the summaries recognize who is in support and who is not in support of an option. Also, the Council was concerned about making sure the group agreed that the summaries represent actually what transpired. At the beginning of every meeting, there was approval of the previous meeting's summary. The purpose of making comments more generic is to keep the issues on the table. Staff recommends keeping the format the way it is in the summaries so people are allowed to speak freely. Decision points are documented, and people know who is voting for what. In this case, they are looking for the desire of the Planning Unit to stay with the status quo or to make the change. The water utilities caucus proposed this. McShane stated he preferred the staff's recommendation to keep it as it is. The group has held together this long and has gotten a lot of work done. The County's role is facilitative in addition to technical. He would defer to the recommendation of the County technical staff. Nelson asked the caucus's concern. Role stated certain caucuses desire to know who said what. Natural Resources Committee, 3/26/2002, Page 11 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. McShane moved to recommend to the full Council that the comments in the WRIA 1 Planning Unit summaries continue in the same format as previously identified. Fleetwood stated they are talking about how the group works and interact best together. The group should make that decision on how best they work. McShane stated the County is part of that group. Nelson asked if the summaries are legal documents. Roll stated they are available for public disclosure. He didn't know how they fit into the definition of a legal document. Nelson asked if the documents being legal documents is a concern of the caucus. Roll state that hasn't been expressed. There is a published list of representatives for each caucus. Fleetwood stated it is a public process, so there shouldn't be any privacy concern. That shouldn't be a concern. Roy stated she supported the motion. Motion carried unanimously. OTHER BUSINESS There was no other business. ADJOURN The meeting adjourned at 11:40 a.m. Jill Nixon, Minutes Transcription ATTEST: Dana Brown - Davis, Council Clerk WHATCOM COUNTY COUNCIL WHATCOM COUNTY, WASHINGTON Dan McShane, Committee Chair Natural Resources Committee, 3/26/2002, Page 12