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DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee
minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they
are not the final approved minutes.
WHATCOM COUNTY COUNCIL
Natural Resources Committee
April 6, 2004
Committee Chair Sharon Roy called the meeting to order at 9:30 a.m. in the
Council Chambers, 311 Grand Avenue, Bellingham, Washington.
Present: Absent:
Seth Fleetwood None
Laurie Caskey- Schreiber
Also Present:
None
COMMITTEE DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL
1. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF RECOMMENDATIONS OF
THE FINAL DRAFT OF THE SALMON RECOVERY INTERLOCAL
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE LUMMI NATION, NOOKSACK TRIBE,
WASHINGTON STATE DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE,
WHATCOM COUNTY, AND THE CITIES OF BELLINGHAM, BLAINE,
EVERSON, FERNDALE, LYNDEN, NOOKSACK, AND SUMAS (AB2004-
115A)
Jeff Monsen, Public Works Department Director, stated the Bellingham City
Council did not take action on this item during its meeting last night, because it is
considering amendments. He asked that the committee hold this in committee for
two weeks.
Caskey- Schreiber moved to hold in committee for two weeks.
Motion carried unanimously.
2. DISCUSSION REGARDING WRIA 1 WATERSHED MANAGEMENT
PROJECT (AB2004 -025A)
Bruce Roll, Water Resources Division Manager, stated he will discuss three
things. First is how the Planning Unit will review the draft plan. Second is a
discussion of section three of the draft Watershed Management Plan, which is
proposed actions for moving forward. Third is a proposal that is being circulated
among the Planning Unit for early action work. They are implementation projects
being proposed.
Sue Blake, Resources Planner, provided handouts (on file). There are certain
things to do during first three months of the overall plan adoption strategy. Staff
and facilitators came up with a review strategy. By mid -June or July, the project
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participants will end up with a document they can support putting forward for public
review.
There are underlying thoughts and considerations for review. First, have a
document that can be supported for public review. Review the document section -
by- section, starting with sections three and four first. Those are the sections that
will require commitments and funding form different parties and resources. They
want to get a sense of that now so that work can take place before the public
review draft phase.
There is a format being proposed for how to review the document. Recognize
that monthly Planning Unit meetings will not be enough for review. The April
Planning Unit meeting has been lengthened to three hours. The Planning Unit will
discuss that the proposed strategy was a recommendation to them at their previous
meeting. The Planning Unit will determine at their next meeting if this proposal will
work for them. Council needs to give direction to staff about whether this timeline
will work. The Planning Unit also wants to start discussing section three during its
next meeting.
Regarding the review and comment procedure, attachment one of the memo
she handed out is a proposed review process and comment form. It asks members
to consider three questions, listed in the handout. Comments on the draft plan will
be compiled. If the document is approved as it is, the County is identified as the
lead or participant in the actions listed in the table attached to the handout.
Roy stated the process looks good because there are opportunities built into
the process for people to say this isn't enough time. The Planning Unit can do that
on the 28t ". She understands the Council will have the opportunity to discuss the
schedule and strategy at one of its water resources work session.
Caskey- Schreiber stated she's comfortable with the process. She's confident
they'll develop a better idea of the costs involved, given the involvement of the
caucuses. Roll stated the Council will discuss it further at the Water Resources work
session next week.
Roll stated he wanted to discuss the funding proposal in front of the Council.
The County helped fund this project in 1998. Early in the process, the County
decided to help develop a draft plan and technical studies. The financial plan they
created to fund the plan was created. The County never indicated it was the
funding source for plan implementation. As they begin to create the plan, the
County is going to have requests for funding implantation projects. These requests
before the Council are the beginning of many more requests that will come forward.
The 2004 budget did not include funding for implementation of the water resources
inventory area (WRIA) projects. Funding would require identifying a funding source
and submitting a supplemental budget request.
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During the plan development, they periodically evaluated next steps. Now,
they are creating models and looking at the draft plan in preparation for adoption.
Many participants want to move ahead with certain projects ahead of adoption.
There is a proposal in the Council packet. One proposed project includes the
Comprehensive Irrigation District Management Plan ( CIDMP) being performed by
the Watershed Improvement District (WID). He anticipates a draft plan that
outlines how Bertrand will manage water in the future sometime this year.
An integral piece of their work and other work is development of instream
flows. There is a chapter in the appendices in the plan that is the instream flow
action plan. It describes how the Planning Unit will approach development of
instream flows throughout the basin. A cornerstone of this project was to establish
new instream flows throughout the basin. One question that came up was the cost
to set instream flows basin -wide. The estimate was more of a guess. They will be
engaging landowners in the Bertrand Creek watershed to do a pilot project to
establish instream flows in that watershed. The first proposal today looks at what it
will take to develop instream flows specifically in the Bertrand Creek watershed.
There are other pieces tied to this, including community outreach and drainage -
based management. The CIDMP looks at the water rights issue and also what
needs to be done to deal with compliance with the Endangered Species Act (ESA)
and Clean Water Act. Those are three prongs to that strategy.
The fourth project is groundwater modeling. This work needs to be part of
the modeling network throughout the WRIA. This fourth project is to begin that
work. It can be very costly to do large scale groundwater modeling, compared to
more geographic- specific areas. Groundwater modeling is needed to understand
the relationship between moving from surface to groundwater sources at critical
times of the year, particularly in the lowlands. The modeling would give insight into
the timing and distance of withdrawals that would impact the stream. This is
currently WRIA -wide.
Caskey- Schreiber stated a representative from the State said the State was
to pay for the groundwater modeling for the Bertrand area when the Council set up
the watershed improvement district. Representative Linville also said that the State
Department of Ecology would pay for it. Roll stated they haven't heard that.
Caskey- Schreiber stated she specifically asked Representative Linville and the
State representative that question. That was one of the conditions of her support of
this item. Also, if the groundwater modeling is 90 percent complete, then why do
they still need $155,000. Roll stated there are two things that need to happen. The
model needs to be constructed, and they have to have sufficient data to calibrate
the model. Until they understand where the model will function and the types of
questions they want answered, he's cautious about what it will take to calibrate a
model. If they want a WRIA -wide groundwater model calibrated to make tough
decisions, they will spend a significant amount of money.
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Caskey- Schreiber stated the Council already voted not to do that because it
will be too expensive. Roll stated there is still work being done by the technical
teams to work up a budget for identifying it once the work from Utah State
University (USU) arrives. That has not been done yet because they haven't
received the work from USU. The groundwater work is to be available sometime in
the first quarter, then to the technical and staff teams to develop a budget.
Roy asked what happens if the Council doesn't want to spend any more on
groundwater analysis. She asked if there is a useful product. Roll stated there are
a number of good products, including a fate nitrate model and a single well
application model. Extensive report of the major aquifers. All the data has been
compiled.
Roy asked if they've lost the 90 percent that's been done if they don't do the
next ten percent. Roll stated they would not. A condition of the scope was that the
product would be packaged by USU to be used at a later date should they move
forward. They won't lose anything other than peoples' interest in having that
information.
Fleetwood asked which important pieces wouldn't be included. Roll stated
they won't have a fully functioning model that will give them insight into the
relationship of switching between surface water to groundwater sources and also
different management strategies for managing groundwater.
Fleetwood stated that relates to the decision support system. He asked if
they had already decided the decision support system is very important. Roll stated
it is, especially in situations where they may not want to use surface water.
Fleetwood asked to what extent they are compromising the effort by going
cheap at the end. Roll stated the work by the technical team will be to more clearly
define what needs to be accomplished and for how much.
Blake stated section two of the plan, on page 51, is a paragraph that
discusses the implications of deferring the groundwater quantity model. It affects
the work they can do on the quantity model. Changing the location or timing of a
withdrawal won't be calculated when they're trying to figure out whether they have
enough water in the stream to accommodate consumptive needs.
Fleetwood stated it's a critical piece to have.
Caskey- Schreiber stated she knows it's critical to regulate the water. She's
resentful that the State made a commitment to pay for this, and now is nowhere to
be found so the County has to pay for this. She doesn't know where they are going
to get the money to pay for this. Roll stated he doesn't assume the $155,000 would
be adequate.
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Roy asked if they are going to be expected, when this is a success, to put
more money into other potential WIDs. Roll stated Ten Mile will probably come up
within the next year. He anticipates that, depending on Bertrand's outcome, this
process could be applicable in other areas. If Bertrand works, there will be a lot of
people, especially from the agricultural community, that will want to do that work.
Fleetwood asked if the plan would be reviewed annually. Roll stated it would
be reviewed periodically. The review schedule is in the plan.
They will talk about this proposal more at the water resources work session
in next week. This proposal will go before the Planning Unit at the end of the
month. He'll need Council input before that.
Fleetwood asked the amount dedicated each year to the Water Management
Plan. Monsen stated the County has applied $2 million per year for four or five
years. That expired as of the first of 2004, with a shift of $1.4 million additionally
into the general fund. They do not have a revenue source for general
implementation, other than in the general fund. What is in the plan will influence
roads, land use, and flood hazards. This is the first of many proposals asking for
cash for someone else to implement something.
Roy stated County staff works on these issues, which are County resources
going toward this plan. They have no money in the budget that is for WRIA action
items. Monsen stated first make sure they're clear on the County priorities for its
jurisdictional responsibilities, that can then be influenced directly by the County
relating to the plan. The next level is, if there's cash and a way to generate cash,
think about how they'll prioritize those discretionary activities. This is not going to
be a simple exercise over the next few months. That's why the Public Works
Department, Planning Department, and Executive are looking at a process for
natural resource integration, programmatic changes that deals with updating the
Comprehensive Plan, the critical area ordinance, shorelines, adoption of the
watershed plan, and development of the salmon recovery plan. Come up with how
these things fit together to come up with a tiered budgetary proposal.
Roy stated that while that's going on, they are getting early requests for
money and haven't had a chance to do that long -range planning. Monsen stated
the process includes a belief that, as the plan concludes, they would have to pause
to figure out what to do next. Everyone is ready to move ahead with something.
Know that at some moment they have to pause to sort through what they can
accomplish.
(Clerk's Note: End of tape one, side A.)
Monsen continued to state that there is a financial element of implementing a
plan, including just retaining an administrative capacity just to maintain the
document. They can't ignore the cost to sustain data, whether or not that data is
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ever used. That's the kind of thing the staff has to bring to the Council to make
sure they can do something with it at the end.
Caskey- Schreiber stated she questions the cost of the Bertrand project. The
total is about $500,000. Roll stated it is.
Caskey- Schreiber stated she thought taxing themselves would cover those
costs. Roll stated the four requests aren't all watershed improvement district (WID)
projects. Those four elements aren't all from the WID. Those four elements were
chosen by a collective of people that would like to see them come forward sooner
rather than later.
Caskey- Schreiber stated the thing that bothers her most about Tom
Anderson's letter is that he implies that this would be funded countywide because
there was an agreement in 1998. She asked how they are supposed to do that.
She doesn't understand how the County would sign away its rights to forever fund
something. She asked what kind of context this agreement was made in, and if
there was talk about a maximum amount of funding or length of time. Monsen
stated as the project was put together, there was agreement that the easiest way to
finance projects like this, including implementation that required coordination, was
from a single source. The County put together a financial package to finish the
plan. How they are going to implement will be tough to decide. There is no
promise of a blank check. There was a different economic and financial reality when
House Bill 2514 was adopted. Since then, there has been a decline in monies from
the federal and state levels. Mr. Anderson is suggesting that somehow the County
agreed to finance any difference that might come up. However, that was not the
case. Just because State and federal money declines, the County can't pick up the
difference. The reality of these kinds of programs is that these independent districts
are to find ways to fund their projects. Entities shouldn't be formed solely to apply
for grants. The County will be a competitor for those grants for projects important
to it. A limited amount of money is available to deal with the priorities, and they
have to identify what those priorities are.
Roy stated the County initially agreed to work with the funding to draft a plan
and to pay for the technical studies. She asked if those are the only two things the
County agreed to pay for. Roll stated they are. The draft plan was done over 50 or
60 Planning Unit meetings that included an enormous amount of administrative
support. The County contributed money to create viable participating caucuses.
Roy stated those expenses were to get the draft plan out there. Roll stated
they were. One of the reasons this has been such a success was because of the
enormous amount of administrative support the County contributed.
Caskey- Schreiber stated she is frustrated to hear accusations of the County
shutting down the process because it won't facilitate implementation with lots of
staff and a steady flow of dollars. The County has to assess and prioritize the
material and knowledge from the plan. It has to come up with a fiscal plan as well.
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Monsen stated a countywide source of funding was preferred because it was
convenient. They will actively engage in ways to implement the plan, which will be
difficult. They will have to make choices. They'll have tools that will allow them to
make very difficult decisions.
Caskey- Schreiber stated everyone seems to think implementation is the
County's burden. This is a countywide plan. Everyone should figure out how to
implement the plan.
Roll asked that this item be held in committee
Blake spoke regarding section three of the management plan. The
management option catalog, shown in section 3.4, page 14 of section three, is the
clearinghouse of all management recommendations made in various plans in the
county to date. Pilot projects are all in the catalog, and are updated.
The second major topic of section three is in subsection 3.5 regarding
Instream Flow Selection and Adoption Action Plan.
Caskey- Schreiber asked if the ultimate decision regarding instream flows is
made by the State Department of Ecology (DOE). Blake stated the DOE will have a
role in making the decision. The courts will also have a role, because it is an
attempt to resolve federal rights.
Monsen stated first in time, first in right is the priority for establishing water
rights. Priority dates establish who has legal rights to water first. To settle treaty
issues and potential federal action, part of the proposal would be to put that priority
date back to time immemorial, ahead of any other water right, from a tribal
perspective.
Caskey- Schreiber asked if they can't set the water levels without figuring out
who has priority first. Monsen stated that is part of the process they should go
through to build cooperation and agreement. Setting instream flow from a scientific
standpoint is a matter of scientific fact.
Roy stated this could end up in litigation. Monsen stated he expects this to
go to litigation.
Roy stated she went to an instream flow conference that included someone
from DOE in Olympia who said the County can do whatever it wants, but the DOE
will decide whether instream flows are adequate for fish. There's that issue and the
tribal issue to deal with. Monsen stated the County focus is dealing with wet water.
However, most of what they hear about instream flow and water rights is a paper
water exercise. Being creative in its application could fly in the face of legal water
rights that are in place.
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Roll stated a group has been working, including the tribal initiating
governments, for over a year on how to approach that, which is included in the
plan. Most of the basin is currently closed. They need to reevaluate those rights
from a scientific perspective to determine if the established instream flows are truly
where they should be. Make sure they are managing the resources for wet water.
They propose to have different instream flows throughout the year given the
precipitation level. There would be corresponding management strategies for each
instream flow situation. They would manage around the flow amount that optimizes
instream and out of stream uses. There will be a paper water right overlay that
empowers people to continue having access to water.
Caskey- Schreiber asked how they are to account for exempt wells. Monsen
stated the exempt well will not make or break the water levels. However, an
exempt well is only exempt from going through the application process. It is still
required to meet all the other regulations.
Blake stated there is an overview of State and federal water rights in the
plan. She can provide more information for the Council on how State and federal
rights are authorized.
Caskey- Schreiber stated that the County shouldn't spend a lot of time and
resources if the State has authority for setting the flows.
Monsen stated the State, including the DOE, is bound to act in the context of
this plan when it is adopted.
Blake stated she can answer specific questions about this section at the
Water Resources work session. Focus on areas that identify the County as a major
party that is involved, including the Comprehensive Irrigation District Management
Plan (CIDMP), low impact development pilot project, and other WRIA -wide
programs. The water use tracking program looks different and is more connected to
the instream flow strategy. The County has been identified as the lead for the
culvert inventory, but has already been doing that work.
Roll stated that given the Council's desire to deal with the natural resource
policy integration and land use activities, note that there is a WRIA -wide program
called Natural Resource Policy Integration. He recommends spending some time
discussing it and to hear from the Planning and Development Services (PDS)
Department and his department on what that means. Also discuss the low- impact
development WRIA -wide program. They will have some substantive discussion on
these two items during the Water Resources work session next week.
OTHER BUSINESS
There was no other business.
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ADJOURN
The meeting adjourned at 10:53 a.m.
Jill Nixon, Minutes Transcription
ATTEST:
Dana Brown - Davis, Council Clerk
WHATCOM COUNTY COUNCIL
WHATCOM COUNTY, WASHINGTON
Sharon Roy, Committee Chair
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