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HomeMy WebLinkAboutWater Resources March 22 20051 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. Whatcom County Council Special Water Resources Work Session March 22, 2005 Council Chair Laurie Caskey- Schreiber called the meeting to order at 10:05 a.m. in the Whatcom County Civic Center Annex, Second Floor Meeting Room, 322 N. Commercial, Bellingham, Washington. Present: Barbara Brenner Dan McShane Seth Fleetwood Sharon Roy L. Ward Nelson Absent: Sam Crawford WATER RESOURCES WORK SESSION (AB2005 -025) 1. LAKE WHATCOM Lake Whatcom Phosphorus Ordinance Sue Blake, Senior Planner, submitted an updated ordinance (on file) and stated the ordinance will be in the Council packet for introduction at the March 29 County Council meeting. Think about whether this ordinance is what they want. She looked at regulations from other jurisdictions in Minnesota and Wisconsin. The proposal is to establish regulations for fertilizer application on residential lawns and public properties in the Lake Whatcom watershed. It would apply to the unincorporated area, not the city of Bellingham. They're looking at commercial fertilizers in the definition in the State Revised Code of Washington (RCW) 15.54. It's very similar to the definition used in the language from the other states. The only exemption for fertilizer use are those with zero percent phosphorus, such as the Lake Whatcom blend. Nelson stated phosphorus is also contained in certain cleaners and detergents. Blake stated phosphorus is found in many things. Nelson asked if fertilizer is the main culprit. Blake stated it's one of them. Roy asked about not applying to newly established lawn areas during the growing season. She asked the rationale. Newly established turf in lawn areas sounds nebulous. Water Resources Work Session, 3/22/2005, Page 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. Brenner stated she passed out a study that shows the highest amount of phosphorus from urban lakes comes from lawn runoff. Craig MacConnell, Cooperative Extension, stated the exemption for newly established turf is because the science shows that newly established turf has little root system, and added phosphorus will help establish the root system and protect the soil from erosion. Bruce Roll, Assistant Director, stated newly established turf applies to the first growing season. Brenner stated she doesn't agree with MacConnell. She suggested adding language to subsection 16.32.060, "...in their first growing season, provided that the fertilizer is phosphorus- free." That will help the roots grow very well. Caskey- Schreiber stated they would just remove the exemption. MacConnell stated in other regulations, there may be an exemption if a fertilizer test shows a need for adding phosphorus. Councilmember Brenner is correct. New turf can be established without adding phosphorus in most cases. However, the establishment may not be as rapid. He doesn't know if soil erosion will result because of un- established turf. Brenner stated if one can't get turf established without using phosphorus, the resident should look at putting in native plants instead of lawn, anyway. She's seen the phosphorus -free fertilizer work on new grass. She can't imagine where it wouldn't work. McShane stated there are instances where phosphorus -free fertilizer won't work, depending on soil types. Sometimes, if the soil lacks nutrients, plants won't establish, including native plants. Unless the Council want to ask people to perform chemical analysis of their soils, it seems reasonable to allow phosphorus fertilizer for a short time to get something established. If the concern is with lawn, in general, a different approach may be to get people to reduce lawn areas versus approving the ordinance regarding fertilizers. He defers to the expert. Brenner stated she's seen plants with phosphorus -free fertilizers grown on clay soils that don't have good nutrients. The fertilizer produced by Washington State University (WSU) produced good grass. MacConnell stated the biggest problem is with new houses being built, when there is tremendous land disturbance including soil compaction and removal of topsoil. One could have new turf on undisturbed soils, and the turf will, in most cases, start well. The problem is when there is disturbed soils, new construction, the overburden pushed aside, and other detrimental effects to the soil. He can envision there will be times when the turf will not become established. There are Water Resources Work Session, 3/22/2005, Page 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. other ways to deal with that. For instance, some municipalities have required restoring the soil when a project is done. Caskey- Schreiber stated she is concerned about getting the education component out there. People tend to get into habits and affiliate with brands they like. MacConnell stated this is a good opportunity for the building industry to educate people in the industry on how to protect the soil so that it is restored and remains in a productive state when construction is done. Caskey- Schreiber stated she won't support Councilmember Brenner's suggested amendment. A big part of phosphorus getting into the lake is from sediment. If there aren't established root systems, that problem will accelerate. Brenner stated they ought to add a section about restoration of natural soils. Builders are supposed to do that now. They're supposed to put the soils aside and restore the soils when construction is done. This is a way to further encourage the construction industry to do this. It's a better way to go. Roy asked if the County already has those requirements in its best management practices (BMP's). Kurt Baumgarten, Planner I, stated that requirement is in a provision under the stormwater special district standards, to use soil amendments in certain conditions. Item 14 talks about soil remediation as a low impact development technique. The Council can consider including a requirement in this ordinance to amend soils to avoid that first year use of phosphorus. Roy stated that is what she would prefer. Anytime the Council discussed this is in the past, the argument against was that they don't have the staff to enforce regulations against using fertilizers with phosphorus. She asked for comment on that issue. Hal Hart, Planning and Development Services Director, stated he's working with administration on improvement of enforcement of all ordinances. Now, he has three full -time equivalent (FTE) positions for enforcement. One FTE is vacant because the staff person is on military leave. Work for that person on administrative approvals and zoning is backing up. One person can take the day - to -day work. In October, a decision was made to concentrate the efforts of the third person on nutrient management. The administration is desperately looking at additional help needs. The wait time now at the front counter is so long that people are beginning to build without permits. That's a concern. He has higher priorities than this. He has to look at life safety first, then property values. They must address the whole system, and add this as an additional item they're doing in the watershed. Caskey- Schreiber asked if this would be enforced by the Planning Department. She thought it could be done by the Sheriff's Office. Blake stated the Water Resources Work Session, 3/22/2005, Page 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. language in the ordinance comes from the Planning Department at this point. The proposal now is that the logical department to do enforcement is the Planning Department (PDS). Caskey- Schreiber asked how PDS would enforce the ordinance. Hart stated the City of Spokane did a ban at the point of sale. He's asking the Health Department to find out if there is another way, their enforcement history in the State of Washington, and if its been successful. He'll find out if there is an alternative. Typically, the department tries to be corrective in the watershed. Staff is a resource for people and offers alternatives to the way people are doing things. The first step is public information and outreach. Caskey- Schreiber asked if they are working with Bakerview Nursery and other nurseries. Brenner stated she's been told there is some kind of instrument that can go into the soil to measure whether there is phosphorus in the soil. She envisions that the process be complaint driven. Neighbors would complain when they see grass that is very green. Caskey- Schreiber stated she agreed that is how the process will work in reality, but she's worried that enforcement will only be complaint driven. Things in the county are happening that shouldn't because no one complains. Brenner stated don't impose the fine right away. She's in favor of education. The problem is with someone who ignores the regulation. The County needs the regulation to do enforcement with education. She doesn't expect this to be a high priority, but done in conjunction with education. McShane asked if there is a program in mind for annual review. Roll stated they need a program to do review. The five -year work program works with places such as Sudden Valley to come up with best management practices. As the item in the work plan to work with Sudden Valley moves forward, staff will have an idea of phosphorus production. Brenner stated this is a perfect opportunity to work with the construction industry. She really does want to work with them so they aren't shut down all the time. If the County does something like this, then those in the industry will also educate their people. Many people will initially not understand anything about phosphorus -laden fertilizer. Education doesn't have to come just from County staff. Baumgarten stated other ordinances delay implementation of the penalty. For the first year, mail out a brochure to everyone in the watershed. Have it available to all staff working in the watershed. When the County gets complaints, staff could respond with educational material. Also, change the packaging of the Lake Whatcom blend to make it very visible and distinct from other brands. There Water Resources Work Session, 3/22/2005, Page 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. is a lot of work being done in the state as a part of low impact development practice on soil amendment. Requiring soil amendments is another level of inspection. Brenner stated it could create another layer of inspection, but the County is not looking quick enough at low impact development practices to get it on the books. When people have that information, many will do low impact development voluntarily. If the County is going to mail out brochures, mail also to every contractor in Whatcom County, to the Building Industry Association (BIA), and Associated General Contractors (AGC). Contractors from outside Whatcom County do work and need the information. Blake stated the Lake Whatcom Friendly Program can be expanded to include this type of thing. The Lake Whatcom Management Program can include some of these suggestions. Caskey stated work with the retailers. She likes the idea of making the packaging very obvious. McShane stated administration of the ordinance is challenging. He is interested in a follow up discussion on the option of a point -of -sale ban, but not necessarily in this ordinance. Other counties have banned the sale of mercury - containing products. He is not willing to go that far, but an idea is to require those who sell fertilizer within a certain distance of lake Whatcom to have available the Lake Whatcom blend or equivalent. He's not sure if that is even legal, but explore the suggestions. Roy stated one option would be to have a day for people to bring in phosphorus fertilizer and trade for phosphorus -free fertilizer. Brenner moved to add language to subsection 16.32.060, "...in their first growing season, provided that the fertilizer is phosphorus- free." Roll stated this ordinance will come to the Council later. Save some of those discussions for when the ordinance is introduced. Nelson stated the State of Minnesota exempted licensed golf courses. He asked if staff has talked to Sudden Valley. Blake stated she has talked to Sudden Valley. Sudden Valley is to work on best management practices and come up with a plan. To move this forward quickly, the community doesn't have those mechanisms in place. There is no such thing as a license fertilizer applicator here in this area. Caskey- Schreiber stated she's worried about implementation. This ordinance won't be adopted by April 1. Blake stated they'll have to change the date. Water Resources Work Session, 3/22/2005, Page 5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. MacConnell stated he will get phone calls as a result of this. Add to the definitions "commercial lawn fertilizer." Subsection .050 talks about commercial lawn fertilizer. Roll stated he would work on that definition. Brenner stated she would like to be a proposer with Executive Kremen. Hart stated he has to work with staff to make sure the map is consistent with other maps they've adopted. Roll stated this is the most accurate map of the drainages, from a scientific perspective. Fleetwood stated people have expressed a concern that pesticides are also a problem. He asked if there is any effort or intention to include pesticides. Roll stated there isn't. Brenner stated pesticides are not a large source of phosphorus. Phosphorus is the issue, but she's interested in whatever they want to bring forward. McShane asked about iron phosphate. MacConnell stated it is used as one method for moss control. McShane stated a draft of the proposed pesticide ordinance exempted the use of iron phosphate. 2. SALMON RECOVERY Caskey- Schreiber stated Bellingham City Council Member John Watts submitted the latest committee report for management recommendations for watershed protection properties (on file). John Watts, Bellingham City Council Member, stated it is the final recommendations the City Council approved by resolution. The recommendations are now the City's policy for taking care of financial requirements. Caskey- Schreiber asked for an update on the agenda for tomorrow night's Lake Whatcom Management Committee Joint Council Meeting. Roll stated the agenda includes discussion of a five -year work plan and a 30 minute update. There will also be discussion about phosphorus reduction, stormwater, and land clearing. The third item is for the councils to talk about common threads of implementation. Item four is a public comment period. Salmon Recovery Plan Update Water Resources Work Session, 3/22/2005, Page 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. Roll stated the water resource inventory area (WRIA) plan is to be approved by the Planning Unit this week. The County Council will receive it for formal adoption. At the same time, the Salmon Recovery Plan will be submitted in April. These are two huge events. The two plans are a culmination of work for the past five to seven years. The entire community worked to come up with strategies for managing water resources and salmon recovery. The Salmon Recovery Plan is integrated as much as possible. The co- managers and others wanted the Salmon Recovery Plan handled separately from WRIA, but that doesn't mean it was developed in a vacuum from the WRIA plan. The same people developed both plans. Therefore, WRIA plan implementation pieces are in the Salmon Recovery Plan, and vice versa. The County has an opportunity to develop a locally developed Salmon Recovery Plan for listed species that will ultimately go to the federal agencies as the County's local plan. This has huge ramifications in terms of having a road map of where the community will spend its time and energy on salmon recovery over the next several years. Also, it gives the County opportunity to vie for more salmon recovery grant funds. The plan will give assurances to community organizations that salmon recovery will occur. The County has always looked at multi- species. Staff looked at the limiting factors, technical data, and threats to existing stocks in terms of all salmon species in the basin. Other participants see the listed species as a priority. John Thompson, Senior Planner, stated this plan isn't done at the end of April or June. This is the beginning of long -term implementation. Adaptive management is an important factor of the plan. The dates in the packet have been revised. He submitted a new time frame (on file). By the end of April, the organization called Shared Strategy needs to have the technical document that provides the scientific basis for the actions that need to be done to recover salmon in WRIA 1. Roy asked what is Shared Strategy. Thompson stated Shared Strategy is the nonprofit organization coordinating the plans. (Clerk's Note: End of tape one, side A.) Thompson continued to state that Shared Strategy will compile all local plans into a single recovery plan and submit the single recovery plan to the federal government. Each area will have a chapter in the final plan. The single recovery plan is to cover the Puget Sound Evolutionarily Significant Unit (ESU) for Chinook. Brenner asked if Shared Strategy would look at what all the counties did and then require elements from one area to another area. Thompson stated Shared Strategy would comment on whether the plans meet federal requirements. Water Resources Work Session, 3/22/2005, Page 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. Roll stated Shared Strategy will come back to the local areas and provide input to get the package ready for state review. There is a back - and -forth dialog with Shared Strategy. McShane stated what goes on in one county might have a significant effect on fish that Whatcom County is trying to protect because the fish use nearshore habitat in other counties. When all the plans come together, there may be an emphasis on areas where the greater, large plan needs to concentrate. Thompson stated the Whatcom County plan will have a nearshore and estuarine component. Chapter 15 of the Shared Strategy plan is the nearshore chapter that does what Councilmember McShane describes. Shared Strategy will geographically knit together all the plans. Brenner asked if it's more likely that the fish come from north. Because of all the work those in Whatcom County have done on WRIA, it's more likely that what Whatcom County does will have to be absorbed by other counties. She asked if any salmon come from other counties to the south. Thompson stated they do, but they don't have good information on the precise origin. It depends on the stock. There are different species with different life histories and different life stages. The currents may move the fish along to Samish Bay. In addition, the fish move to habitats with the right food source and water quality. Fleetwood stated the lack of snow and glaciers in the mountains has an impact on salmon. He asked if the Council's review of the final summary draft on June 1 will be the final work that the Council will do on the plan strategy. Thompson stated the technical document is the science on limiting factors, management strategies, and actions. The summary document compiles all those actions and spells out the commitments, commissions, and resources. He anticipates that the technical document won't change much because it's already in the review process by Shared Strategy. The June 1 review would be a good opportunity for the Council to clarify commitments and conditions. Fleetwood stated the Council already blessed the eight action items. He asked if they haven't changed and won't change between now and June. Thompson stated they won't change, but they'll be more detailed. Fleetwood asked if the Council's work for Shared Strategy is effectively done, with the exception of responding to final summary things that might come forward. Thompson stated they're getting close. Roll stated the struggle in working with Shared Strategy is understanding where things start and where things end. There is always a loop of review. He hopes the core course for the next ten years is agreed upon. The approach to those main courses may change. The core data is there. Shared Strategy will make sure there is a level of buy off and support from the local governments before the plan goes to the federal government. That's why he engages the County Council and all the small cities so the entire community is included. An advantage Water Resources Work Session, 3/22/2005, Page 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. is that WRIA 1 has an established, clear salmon recovery board that includes everyone in plan development and implementation. This advantage will make WRIA 1 more competitive for future monies. As an incentive, the Salmon Recovery Funding (SRF) Board is considering creating block grants for areas such as WRIA 1 where there are clearly defined plans and actions. Caskey- Schreiber stated she really likes the plan. It's well thought out and includes an amazing amount of research. The plan is very thorough. She asked about the section on achieving recovery. One objective is to restore historic channel patterns. She asked how staff quantifies the historic channel pattern and to what historic timeframe will fish be restored. That is a question many have asked and will continue to ask. Include that information in the section on policies for achieving recovery. She asked if they can expect to get federal financial help with achieving recovery. Roll stated they will, hopefully. There is a group he will be a part of that will package the federal request from Puget Sound. Roy stated this is one of the best documents she's every read. It's very thorough and answered many questions. Roll stated John Thompson and Scarlet Tang single - handedly developed the document. The technical document was so large and difficult to follow. Through Mr. Thompson's and Ms. Tang's efforts', they came up with something that is readable by everyone in the community. Thompson stated the technical information is being revised so it is more accessible. That is the purpose of this summary document, also. The technical answer to Councilmember Caskey - Schreiber's question about achieving goals is that they have good historical data that Brian Collins compiled as the template. The ecosystem diagnosis and treatment model used for evaluating Chinook habitat is called a patient and template model. The historical conditions from historical accounts in Mr. Collins' work becomes the template. The recovery goals and targets for fish numbers aren't based on the conditions and survey done in 1850 or 1880. It's more about properly functioning conditions. There are small parts of the Nooksack River that are pristine. There are other areas where they hope to get back to pristine condition. Over the long term, there are areas where they can't get back to pristine condition. As they develop more detailed restoration strategies for the forks, the main stem, and the tributaries, they will know more about how much they can improve fish functions, where they are at, and where they need to go to get recovery. The plan's commitments and conditions are fairly flexible. As the plan undergoes adaptive management, the Council will see these items in various departmental budgets, grant requests, and other information from different agencies. It will be very important to engage the community as they develop the detail for specific geographic areas. Brenner stated this document was very interesting to read. She referenced page 14 and asked who from the local governments is on the Salmon Recovery Board. Roll stated the County approved the Salmon Recovery Board through an interlocal agreement that includes two caucuses. The land use land managers is Water Resources Work Session, 3/22/2005, Page 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. one caucus that includes all the mayors of the cities and the County Executive. The co- manager caucus is the two tribes and the State Department of Fish and Wildlife. Brenner referenced page 17 and asked if they're talking about recovering non -local stocks. Thompson stated the late -time Chinook is another name for fall Chinook. The fall Chinook in the basin now are primarily Green River origin, going back 100 years. They know, based on similar basins with better documentation, the fall Chinook fill an ecological niche. The early, spring Chinook come into the river now, move their way upstream, and spawn farther upstream in the basin. The fall Chinook overlap the spring Chinook geographically and in spawning timing. The fall Chinook tend to spawn in the lower sections of the rivers. With this plan, they don't want to do any harm to those fall Chinook, but the priority is doing benefit to the native, spring Chinook. They will evaluate the fall Chinook. There may be a native component of the fall Chinook that they don't recognize because they haven't done the genetic work. They haven't gotten a straight answer yet if they have to recover fall Chinook. Filling all the niches is part of the federal population diversity and spatial structure goals. Roy asked if the county originally had a native fall Chinook species. Thompson stated it's likely they did. They don't have good data on it. The Nooksack Tribal elders feel strongly they did, but the Lummi Tribe isn't as confident that they did. Ecologically it makes sense, and there is some anecdotal information that supports the assumption. Brenner thanked the staff for exploring the potential of dredging river gravel. She asked what "redd" is. Thompson stated redd is the nest in which salmon lay their eggs. Brenner referenced page 23 and asked the hatchery legacy effects on salmon that are no longer being conducted. Thompson stated an example are the fall Chinook that the Kendall Hatchery produced for years. A large number of fall Chinook originated at the hatchery, and then returned to that system for spawning. The fall Chinook begin to spawn the last few weeks that the early, spring Chinook spawn. The falls compete with the springs for habitat and food sources. In addition, the bigger Coho that are released from the hatchery will eat the smaller native species. Hatchery plans identify and try to avoid those effects. McShane stated he likes the action items. The language in the section about hatcheries should be harder. Be clear that the hatcheries did cause harm. They should talk about the fact that hatchery programs can be very detrimental. Fleetwood stated they need to underscore that success will be found in implementation. He's excited about this plan. He asked if this plan will be used primarily for the purpose of lobbying the federal government for funding, or if the County will commit its own resources to implementation. Thompson stated both sources of funding need to be committed. The County must determine its needs. Water Resources Work Session, 3/22/2005, Page 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. It would be best if they can identify local sources to match federal resources. Clearly they don't have local resources to do everything in the plan. Nelson stated the County will primarily do work on land use issues in the plan. He asked when the Council will begin to see the regulatory practices necessary to achieve the water quantity and water quality levels outlined in the document. He asked if staff has a perspective on where the County is now with its regulatory practices. Thompson stated the primary regulatory piece identified in these actions is the critical areas ordinance and shorelines update. Those two ordinances alone are not sufficient to achieve recovery. Their mandated objective is no net loss of existing function. Recovery will take more than that. Other regulatory pieces include the State and federal governments. The water quantity piece will be achieved through the instream flow action item, number six. The County does not have regulatory responsibility for enforcing instream flow. The County will make sure the flows established will meet ecological and community needs. The State Department of Ecology will enforce the flow levels. Nelson stated they need to look at all areas of the county, not just one area. There will be other requirements from the federal government. He asked what and where the County needs to look at. Thompson stated they need to provide specificity. Brenner referenced page 25. She attended the annual meeting of the Nooksack Salmon Enhancement Association and listened to the guest speaker, Tom Quinton. Everything the speaker said was that salmon are cyclical. She asked if they are screwing around with the natural cycles by having specific dates with specific goals. According to the speaker, some of the cycles are 50 or 60 years. Thompson stated the specific goals are averages over time that take the cycles into account. The data goes back to the 1970's. They want to establish a general, upward trend. Brenner stated the speaker surprised her when he said some of the cycles are very long. Information from the 1970's may not reflect the cycle. Thompson stated the staff is highly certain that they're not seeing a cyclic low level. There is very good evidence related to habitat conditions and that they need habitat changes. The cycles will affect the rate at which they achieve their goals. Caskey- Schreiber moved to support the document generally. Motion carried 5 -0 with Fleetwood out of the room. ADJOURN The meeting adjourned at 11:25 a.m. Water Resources Work Session, 3/22/2005, Page 11 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 DISCLAIMER: This document contains the Whatcom County Council or Committee minutes, as approved. However, unless an attested signature page is attached, they are not the final approved minutes. Jill Nixon, Minutes Transcription The Council approved these minutes on April 12 , 2005. ATTEST: Dana Brown - Davis, Council Clerk WHATCOM COUNTY COUNCIL WHATCOM COUNTY, WASHINGTON Laurie Caskey- Schreiber, Council Chair Water Resources Work Session, 3/22/2005, Page 12