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HomeMy WebLinkAboutBoard of Health July 31 2007WHATCOM COUNTY COUNCIL Board of Health July 31, 2007 Council Chair Carl Weimer called the meeting to order at 10:30 a.m. in the Council Chambers, 311 Grand Avenue, Bellingham, Washington. Present: Absent: Barbara Brenner None Dan McShane Sam Crawford Seth Fleetwood Laurie Caskey - Schreiber L, Ward Nelson Z. PUBLIC SESSION No one spoke. 2. WHATCOM COUNTY HOMELESS SERVICE CENTER Gary Williams, Health Department, gave a presentation. There is a fragmented process for providing services to the homeless in the county. The State authorized the County to charge fees on recorded documents, which funds low - income and homeless programs. He read from the presentation on the background. Brenner asked what the State Department of Community, Trade, and Economic Development (CTED) has to do with the local homeless. Williams stated it coordinates with other jurisdictions on homeless services. He continued to read the presentation on the background, the 2007 point -in -time count results, challenges identified to end homelessness in Whatcom County, homeless services as they exist today, the health impact, a successful Whatcom County HGAP grant application, and the Whatcom County Homeless Service Center ( WCHSC), the WCHSC budget, and conclusion. Caskey- Schreiber asked how they would outreach to landlords. Williams stated this effort will provide landlords support to do this, so they don't withdraw their rental units from the program. Brenner asked if there will be a referral process to health providers. Williams stated primary care is a'huge factor in this program. Brenner stated a person representing the mobile home folks should be allowed to participate on the Affordable Housing Task Force. They keep hearing about problems with local mobile home parks. She hopes this project helps people who live in them do some sort of buyout. Williams stated other localities have passed regulations to support maintenance of mobile home resources. If they lose that housing, they become part of this homeless situation. Board of Health, 7/31/2007, Page 1 1 Brenner stated the concern is that any levy the Council passes runs the risk of 2 creating more homeless people. Williams stated thinking about the whole continuum of 3 housing holistically is important. 4 5 Nelson stated the critical issue is where they are going to put homeless people. They 6 are losing sites to locate people. The primary cause of people being on the verge of 7 homelessness is because landowners find a better way to get a better return on their 8 property investment. Nothing in this plan will prevent that. Even the best housing program 9 is a waste of money if there is no place to put the homeless. Williams stated there are ways 10 to deal with people so they can stay in the housing. The Affordable Housing Task Force is 11 looking at another population. If they just focus on the homeless, they will see a larger 12 number of homeless because of housing affordability issues. They are dealing with 13 homelessness in many ways. This program deals with people who are homeless as an 14 episode and who can come back from homelessness. For others, the larger County process 15 deals with weather they will have affordable housing resources where people can live. That 16 issue is bigger than this program. 17 18 Nelson asked the percentage of these people who abuse alcohol and drugs. Williams 19 stated 29 percent have substance abuse issues. If they can get them into housing, they can 20 work with them on their abuse. 21 22 Nelson stated said there is no precondition or tie to this program. He asked the 23 treatment incentive if there is no condition to this program. Williams stated that when they 24 work with people to provide housing, the housing is a motivator for people to get into 25 treatment. If they keep housing conditional, it removes the incentive. 26 27 Crawford stated he is concerned that they want to assist folks who are really down 28 and out. He asked if the Opportunity Council could have a screening process for folks who 29 are here for awhile as opposed to someone who comes to Whatcom County just for this 30 service. Have a threshold so the program helps others in the community when in need. 31 He's concerned that people from out of the area will come here for this service. Williams 32 stated Whatcom County is already dealing with being at the end of the line because of the 33 Canadian, ocean, and mountain boundaries. 34 35 Crawford asked if there is going to be a mechanism to separate true community 36 members from transients. Williams stated it's a developmental issue. They don't want to 37 deny someone a home because of residency requirements. However, they will consider 38 those issues and challenges. 39 40 Regina Delahunt, Health Department Director, stated that they will have to work 41 closely with the Opportunity Council to get all of these systems and criteria in place before 42 they start the program, so they know exactly who is eligible and how it will operate. Now, 43 the program is still conceptual, and there is a lot of work to do. 44 45 Nelson asked the goal and projection. Williams stated they want to reduce 46 homelessness in this county by 50 percent. He will report both to the County Council and 47 State Department of Community, Trade, and Economic Development (CTED). Other 48 counties doing this are having 30 and 40 percent reductions. These programs work. 49 50 Carolyn Hull, 2585 Birch Bay Lynden Road, Custer, stated that as of July 1, all the 51 funding for sex offenders who come out of prison is cut off, so they have no place to go 52 when they get to Whatcom County, even though the law requires that they be returned to 53 Whatcom County. She asked if this would help with that situation. Williams stated the Board of Health, 7/31/2007, Page 2 I Department of Corrections walked away and left the counties with this cost. He's outraged 2 about it. The County will work with these people because they are part of the community, 3 but this will be a challenge. 4 5 Hull asked when these funds might be available. These men and women are 6 returning to the county now, and the funds are gone. Williams stated they hope to have 7 this process in place by the end of 2007 or early 2008. 8 9 Hull stated they must consider what is going to happen to these people between now 10 and then. 11 12 3. DEFINING OSS SENSITIVE AREAS AND HOMEOWNER EVALUATIONS 13 14 Weimer stated the Board is talking about the definition of sensitive areas and a 15 proposal from Councilmember Brenner about homeowner evaluations. 16 17 John Wolpers, Health Department, stated the local regulations were effective on April 18 2. State regulations went into effect on July 1. The 12 Puget Sound counties are required 19 to develop a local management plan detailing how they are going to implement and enforce 20 operations and maintenance (O &M) in the county. The plan had a July 1 deadline, matching 21 the State regulation implementation. Whatcom County requested and received an 22 extension to October 31, 2007, to make sure a good plan is in place. 23 24 Today, they will talk about part two of the local management plan, which is defining 25 sensitive areas. The County must review and evaluate a broad range of areas, which are 26 referred to as areas posing an increased risk to public health (APIRPH). There is a list of 27 designations. After looking at these areas, they found that those areas cover 90 percent or 28 more of the county. Within these areas, they must identify the sensitive areas within those 29 areas. That will tell them whether or not they must add more protective, additional 30 requirements to onsite sewage (OSS) systems within those areas. 31 32 They are also supposed to coordinate with other agencies governing development. 33 They have met with the Planning Department about this. The Onsite Sewage Subcommittee 34 has met twice since the last Board of Health meetings. They also met with the Public Health 35 Advisory Board (PHAB). 36 37 Based on their input, they propose to define sensitive areas as wellhead protection 38 areas for group A public water systems and those areas designated in the shoreline 39 management program, including those streams with a mean average flow of 20 cubic feet 40 per second (cfs), all lakes over 20 acres, all marine shorelines, all associated floodways, and 41 the 200 foot buffer from the ordinary high water mark from fresh and marine shorelines. 42 43 The OSS subcommittee suggested extending the shoreline delineation farther up 44 those reaches. However, they narrowed the focus to be consistent with the agencies that 45 are governing development. 46 47 (Clerk's Note: End of tape one, side A.) 48 49 Wolpers continued to state that they narrowed the focus also to make sure they are 50 well defined and to administer this program. No additional requirements were necessary 51 within sensitive areas based on design criteria and current location standards in the 52 regulations. They don't need to do anything more in that respect. 53 Board of Health, 7/31/2007, Page 3 The current program doesn't allow homeowner inspections at this time. They've discussed a change to allow homeowner inspections under certain conditions. He worked with Councilmember Brenner on proposed language, included in today's packet. Today, he recommends approving the definition of sensitive area and providing direction for any revision to the regulations if the Board decides to go that route. Weimer stated it looks like they've defined the areas, but there aren't any actual additional regulations, so the entire county Regulations are the same. Wolpers stated that is correct. Crawford asked if this definition is tied to homeowner evaluation. Wolpers stated the recommendation is that homeowners not do their own inspections in these sensitive areas. Crawford asked how big the wellhead protection areas are. Wolpers stated they have a larger map that has more specific information on those areas. They are designated. Regina Delahunt, Health Department Director, stated there is a calculation that's done for each area, which is then mapped accordingly. The water system must define the methodology used to identify the areas and then they're mapped. Crawford asked if it's based on how much water comes out. Delahunt stated the quantity drawn out of the aquifer is a part of it. The water causes the draw down and a larger delineation of the area. The soils and many other factors go into the calculation. Wolpers stated it is only for group A systems, which are 14 or more connections. Fleetwood asked how they distinguish between group A and group B systems. Wolpers stated a group A system is managed under State Department of Health, has 14 or more connections, and 25 or more people are connected to the system. This does not affect group B systems. They are looking at group A systems because that is one consideration in the State regulation of the areas posing an increased risk to public health. Weimer asked if the parcel or the system has to be outside the 200 foot buffer. Wolpers stated the parcel must be outside the buffer. Weimer asked if Councilmember Brenner's proposal is different from the committee's recommendation. Brenner stated her proposal had to do with how they define sensitive areas. She thought only sensitive areas were to be included in this regulation. That was the State intent. Delahunt stated the State requirement to perform maintenance is a statewide requirement that covers every system in the county. Brenner stated that doesn't mean it has to be done by a licensed O &M inspector at those times. Her proposal has to do with sensitive areas. Outside sensitive areas, the State doesn't require anything. Delahunt stated the State requires O &M on every system within Whatcom County within the State. Whether or not someone is in a sensitive area, one must do O &M once every one or three years, depending upon the system. The owners may do the O &M themselves in sensitive areas, but the O &M has to be done. The State doesn't require licensed O &M specialists to do it. The County regulations are more stringent than the State regulations. Board of Health, 7/31/2007, Page 4 Crawford stated many wells indicated on the map have multiple rings. He asked if that indicates that the widest ring is a sensitive area. He asked that criteria. Wolpers indicated on the map the distance they are considering, which is the farthest ring. He explained the areas on the map. Delahunt stated some areas have been modeled, and some areas are more generic. For the generic areas, the widest outer ring denotes the wellhead protection area. That is the committee's recommendation. Brenner stated there are locations on the map that aren't group A systems. Delahunt stated the map is intended to apply to group A systems. Brenner stated people who were going to be covered under this new rule were going to be able to take a homeowner course so they can do their own home inspections for a certain length of time. The State allowed for that. This has gotten bigger than she thought it would. Everyone should be allowed an opportunity to take the class and do their own inspections. No one has any idea about the costs involved. If people did their own inspections, with a professional inspection every fifth year, they will identify all the problems. The current regulation is overkill. They are trying to find the failing systems, not punish people. Her proposal is intended to apply to people in sensitive areas, so they have to take the class. Everyone else outside the sensitive areas can do their own inspections without taking the class. Only the people in the sensitive areas would go through the class. Wolpers stated he understood that the staff was to define sensitive areas. The subcommittee did not want homeowners in the sensitive areas to do their O &M. Everything outside of those sensitive areas, once defined, would be the areas where homeowners can do their own evaluations. Brenner stated she thought the only systems that wouldn't be allowed to do their own inspections are those systems listed in subsection (D) in her proposal. Weimer stated that is the difference between Councilmember Brenner's proposal and what the Board has seen before. Councilmember Brenner wants to allow people in sensitive areas also do their own inspections. Delahunt stated that was the debate they had before, but they haven't defined sensitive areas so the Board could decide what it wants to do. Now, they have defined sensitive areas to a certain extent. Fleetwood asked if the State offers recommendations. Delahunt stated the State regulations don't go either way. It gust says an evaluation shall be done. The State leaves it to local jurisdictions to be more specific. Caskey- Schreiber referenced subsection 24.05.160(A)(4)(a). She asked if a gravity system in a sensitive area would become more stringent. She asked how things would change if the Board adopts the proposal from Councilmember Brenner. Delahunt stated all the requirements are the same countywide. The only difference is if homeowners can do their own evaluations for five years. According to Councilmember Brenner's draft, anyone can do their own inspections, including those in sensitive areas. The OSS subcommittee recommends that Councilmember Brenner's proposal apply only to areas that are not sensitive areas. Weimer stated add "D.4 systems within sensitive areas." Board of Health, 7/31/2007, Page 5 1 Fleetwood stated they could also amend B, "...specialist, except. for. defined. sensitive 2 areas." 3 4 Delahunt stated the staff would like to understand what the Board wants to do, and 5 then it will come back with proposed changes. They would have to amend the existing 6 regulations and go through a public hearing process. 7 8 Weimer stated there are two questions. One is whether the Board agrees with the 9 sensitive area definition. The other is what they want to do with homeowner inspections. 10 Deal with the definition first. 11 12 Caskey- Schreiber stated she is fine with the definition. It's fair to allow those folks 13 to do their own inspections if they can take a class in the county, with added language that 14 self- inspection not be allowed in sensitive areas. 15 16 Weimer stated most of the Drayton Harbor shellfish protection district is not in this 17 definition. He asked if they talked with the shellfish protection district about this. Wolpers 18 stated Geoff Menzies is on the OSS subcommittee. The issue is how to best try to 19 implement this regulation. The question for the OSS subcommittee was how to begin 20 implementation. The subcommittee determined to start implementation of the O &M 21 program within Drayton Harbor. Within the Drayton Harbor watershed, it will apply to 22 Dakota Creek, California Creek, and along the marine shorelines. There are tributaries that 23 are not covered currently. 24 25 Delahunt stated the subcommittee would have preferred extending the sensitive area 26 further up the reaches of those streams. However, the staff wanted to be consistent with 27 the shoreline management plan for now. It would be easier to do and track. They don't 28 have all those extended areas mapped. Sticking with this would be best for now. 29 30 Wiemer asked if the subcommittee voted on that. Wolpers stated it did not. It just 31 had the discussion. Another issue is that the subcommittee wants to abandon everything 32 east of Deming. The North Fork, South Fork, and middle fork of the Nooksack River 33 watersheds would not be included. 34 35 Brenner stated she was told that a couple of members of the OSS Subcommittee 36 didn't know anything about the meeting during which this recommendation was decided. 37 There are many issues besides what's being said now. Some areas have very good 38 percolation, and other areas don't. They aren't necessarily solving a problem. They are 39 making some kind of a decision. Treat everyone the same, and they will still catch the 40 problems. 41 42 McShane stated there are overlay districts, such as the stormwater overlay, for the 43 Drayton Harbor watershed. Different rules and regulations kick in. He asked if that was 44 considered. Wolpers stated they looked at the ten items listed in the State regulations. 45 46 Delahunt asked if they looked at those overlays instead of the shoreline management 47 plan designation. 48 49 Wolpers stated the subcommittee did not. 50 51 Brenner stated the staff would like direction from the Board on the sensitive area 52 map. It can be further refined in the future. The Board can decide about homeowner 53 evaluations whenever they think they have enough information to decide. Board of Health, 7/31/2007, Page 6 1 2 Tim Slater, 103 E. Holly, Bellingham, asked the source of the data used to establish 3 the wellhead protection areas and modeling used. That information is hard to verify. 4 Another issue is about the existing septic systems for which the County and homeowners 5 don't have records. Nothing in the language provides protection and assurance that 6 someone will be considered in good standing, which is necessary to get people to comply. 7 8 Patrick Grover, Loomis Trail Road, stated that at earlier hearings, they were told that 9 the O &M specialist inspection was mandated by Olympia. Now, he's hearing it's a County 10 decision. It's appalling to impose this extra protection, and then say the State requires it. 11 12 There are problems in the proposal. Homeowner inspection requires first inspection 13 by an O &M specialists, but there aren't enough O &M specialists in business for it to be done 14 timely. Also, inspectors work for installation companies, so they have a vested interest in 15 finding problems. If it's so important to control and check these systems, it should be a 16 function of the Department of Health, not someone who has a vested interest in making a 17 profit from putting in a new system, If they have to do that, then allow pumpers, who do 18 some kind of inspections when they pump. Get them certified to do inspections. 19 20 Brenner stated anyone can take the course and become a licensed O &M inspector. 21 Grover stated make it part of the regulation so that a pumper must become a certified O &M 22 inspector, or make a certain percentage of a company's fleet must become certified. Make 23 it mandatory, not voluntary. 24 25 Ethyl Kitching, Kitching Excavating, Ferndale, stated she is a licensed installer of 26 sewage disposal systems in both Whatcom and Skagit County. She supports 27 Councilmember Brenner's proposal for homeowners to do their own evaluations. Inspectors 28 have many hurdles in educating homeowners in operations and maintenance of septic 29 systems. Until the recent implementation of the O &M program, installers and pumpers 30 typically were the ones who responded to problems that arise. Many owners don't know 31 where their tanks are or that they have a sewage disposal system. When educating 32 property owners about their systems, she found that owners generally want to do whatever 33 they can to protect their systems. The best way to protect the systems, and the 34 environment, is to educate the property owners. A properly working septic system can 35 recharge the groundwater and enhance the watershed areas. Allowing homeowners to 36 become educated and then inspect their own systems is an excellent idea. It should include 37 the sensitive areas. If homeowners are willing to take the O &M class, but don't want to do 38 all the paperwork, the County could waive the filing fee as an incentive to get them to take 39 the class. 40 41 Her husband is on the OSS Subcommittee, but not could attend two recent meetings 42 because he only had a few days' notice. There was not a vote on some of the information 43 regarding sensitive areas. She encourages more discussion regarding that. Support 44 Councilmember Brenner's proposal. 45 46 Nelson asked the percentage of people who call her and know the location of their 47 tanks. Kitching stated the percentage is very small. 48 49 Nelson asked the percentage of her clients who call for regular maintenance versus 50 how many call because there is a problem. Kitching stated few clients call just for regular 51 maintenance. About 99 percent of the calls she receives are due to a property sales or a 52 mess in the backyard. 53 Board of Health, 7/31/2007, Page 7 I Nelson asked how many of those few have their tank lids off and ready for 2 inspection. Kitching stated very few. She knows of pumpers who tell people they can save 3 money if they can find the tank lids. It is not a matter of neglect, just a matter of not being 4 aware. 5 6 Lyle Smith, Ten Mile and Noon Road, stated he supports allowing the owners to do 7 their own inspections. There shouldn't necessarily be a fee attached for them to do it. 8 Regarding sensitive areas, those individuals should also do their own inspections, with a 9 class if necessary. 10 11 Nelson asked if Mr. Smith ever inspected his tank and how he got his lid off. Smith 12 stated he has. He lifts his lid off with his tractor. 13 14 Nelson stated one couldn't just lift off the lid. He has to use a crowbar on his tank. 15 16 Bill Cowen, 9780 Allen Street, Blaine, stated he supports self- inspection. He has a 17 jet aeration system. He's been doing his own inspections twice per year for the past 30 18 years. Periodically, it's pumped. He's never had a problem with it. He wouldn't mind going 19 to a class if he has to, but he's not happy that he now has to hire someone to do what he's 20 been doing for 30 years. 21 22 Curtis Hull, 2585 Birch Bay Lynden Road, stated he would like to know what qualifies 23 as a sensitive area. He asked if single residents, in addition to group A systems, in sensitive 24 areas must also follow the rules. He supports Councilmember Brenner's idea to allow 25 owners to inspect their own systems. The septic system he built with his home in 1994 had 26 to meet County requirements, which included that the system be sufficient to deal with the 27 septics of that size residence. Whenever he considers adding anything to his system, the 28 County suggests that he not do anything. He understands the need for a quality 29 environment. 30 31 (Clerk's Note: End of tape one, side B.) 32 33 Curtis continued to state he is concerned about the cost to the homeowners. 34 35 Weimer asked if individual exempt wells within the area of a group A system circle 36 still must still have regular operations and maintenance. Wolpers stated they would, if 37 adopted as proposed. 38 39 Howard Andreson, 2696 Willy's Lake Road, Custer, stated he supports 40 Councilmember Brenner's proposal to allow owners to inspect their own systems. He has 41 rental homes. The extra cost will be passed on to the renters, making rents less affordable. 42 With education, he can learn to inspect his own system. 43 44 Perry Eskridge, Whatcom County Association of Realtors Government Affairs 45 Director, stated his representative on the OSS Subcommittee didn't get any notice of the 46 meeting. He asked if any parcel that abuts the 200 foot buffer is included in the sensitive 47 area, regardless of the size of it. He opposes that. 48 49 Les Bjerkstam, 8172 Van Buren Road, stated he appreciates Councilmember 50 Brenner's help in these matters. Once, a contractor told him his baffles were shot and 51 needed to be replaced, but the contractor lied. His baffles were fine. That is a problem. 52 Board of Health, 7/31/2007, Page 8 1 John Worland, 4367 Squalicum Lake Road, stated he was a member of the OSS 2 Subcommittee. The OSS Subcommittee is not terribly opposed to homeowner maintenance. 3 However, they are generally opposed because the record individual maintenance on septic 4 tanks is lousy. People don't pump them, let alone figure out if they are working properly. 5 6 There are three ways a system can fail. Few systems in this county are gravity 7 systems anymore. Most of the new systems have mechanical systems. The repair of a 8 pressurized gravity mound failure is very expensive. People must maintain them. 9 Maintenance costs much less than the cost of replacing a failed drain field. If people don't 10 do maintenance, they face the cost of replacement. 11 12 The primary concern is coliform and surface water issues, primarily in the shellfish 13 protection areas and lower parts of the drainages. Because they are close to the source, 14 those failures end up with sewage that gets into the surface water, runs off, and ends up in 15 the shellfish areas. That is the primary documented problem. 16 17 Regarding the parcel versus the land, it will have to be an adaptive program. They 18 have to start with finding the parcels and systems. 19 20 Wellhead protection areas is an EPA program for water systems to protect the source 21 water. It wasn't designed for this. It is mentioned as one of the State's ten criteria, which 22 is why the subcommittee chose it. Groundwater contamination is not as much of an issue 23 as surface water contamination. 24 25 Education is good. If they can get people to be aware of their systems and make 26 sure those people know how important it is to maintain their systems, that would be good. 27 He's concerned that failures happen gradually. It's hard to tell when a system is failing. 28 29 Nelson asked Mr. Worland to state his background. Worland stated he is an 30 environmental engineer. He's built hundreds of septic systems and designed a lot of 31 wastewater treatment. 32 33 Unidentified speaker, asked if the County's regulations are more stringent than the 34 State's. Delahunt stated they are. 35 36 Speaker asked why they feel that the County is better than the other counties. He 37 asked what is wrong with the State regulations. 38 39 Crawford stated the State requires inspections. However, the State didn't define 40 what an inspection was. The Board of Health felt that it needed to define an inspection. It 41 came up with a system that requires certain things to happen. To make sure those certain 42 things happen, someone who is certified has to sign off on the inspection. The certified 43 person puts their reputation and business on the line to verify that inspection. 44 45 Councilmember Brenner proposes that there can be a time gap between those 46 professional inspections and when homeowners can do their own inspections. The State 47 regulation was silent on how and who were to do the inspections. 48 49 Wes Kentch, Enterprise Road, Ferndale, stated he's lived on his property for 45 50 years. He's installed septic systems on his property and his sons' properties. Homeowners 51 are smart enough to do their own inspections. He has to maintain his system because he 52 drinks his effluent, which goes to his well in his field. 53 Board of Health, 7/31/2007, Page 9 Mary Dickinson, Building Industry Association of Whatcom County Governmental Affairs Director, stated Councilmember Brenner's proposal is a good amendment. It provides an incentive to owners. She is concerned about the definition of sensitive areas. Parcels adjacent to the buffer would be problematic because there is no rationale for it. It's not actually in the buffer. Work on this longer. Nelson stated he understands everyone's sentiments. He's looked at his system for years, but there are problems with doing that. It would be a value to all owners to be educated on their systems. The Board needs to work on allowing that to take place. People in the rural area want to take care of their properties and investments. Very few people have their tanks inspected, or even know where their tank is. The lids are very heavy and difficult to lift. An education program is valuable for all. Most homeowners won't want to stick their heads into the tank to inspect the baffles or take the time to inspect the field. Many systems used to be just a pipe going out to the back pasture. This is a health issue, not a private property rights issue. More and more people rely on group A systems as the population grows. People are getting very concerned about water quality and water quantity. He questions the shoreline areas. There was a debate about whether 200 foot buffers in Kendall and Glacier would have any impact or provide protection. Therefore, look at the shoreline areas again. They are trying to protect water and communities impacted by these septic systems. He supports a mechanism to provide education, but look at where that is allowed. Brenner stated that when people take those classes and find out the costs of neglecting their systems, they will want to do inspections themselves. Every sixth year, a regular inspection is still required. Not letting people take care of their own systems is overkill. This is an opportunity for people to learn about their systems and become stewards. McShane stated they should be able to figure out what's going on within a 200 foot buffer. Regarding wellhead protection areas, it seems that within the health guidelines for those areas, this issue was addressed in terms of time of travel. There could be some lesser period of time that pathogens can survive that is less than 20 years. They may not need to use the entire 20 -year travel time area. The time varies from issue to issue. They may be able to shrink that area. Brenner stated she wants to allow everyone in the county, even those in the sensitive areas, to be allowed to use this. Councilmember McShane's comment about wellhead protection area time of travel is interesting. Delahunt stated it sounds like the Board believes the staff is going in the right direction, but should reconsider the time of travel area and the eastern portion of the county. That's what she needed to know. In addition, she would like to know whether the Board wants staff to work on a modification to the OSS regulations to allow homeowners to do their own inspections. Brenner moved to request that staff go forward with amending the regulation per her proposal and bring the amendment forward to the Board for adoption. Fleetwood stated the motion is just to give direction. Delahunt stated staff would make the amendment and go through a public process, including a formal public hearing. W-1 Fleetwood asked if the subcommittee considered this proposal. Delahunt stated it Board of Health, 7/31/2007, Page 10 Brenner stated this was brought before the subcommittee. She wasn't told about the meeting, so she wasn't there. The OSS subcommittee didn't discuss it, but just went forward with what it had. Nelson stated he appreciates Councilmember Brenner's effort. The subcommittee discussed it thoroughly. The subcommittee is merely stating to the Board that it, the subcommittee, has no comment. The subcommittee commented upon the protection areas, which was the Board's request. It's inappropriate to pick on the subcommittee. The Board of Health makes the decisions. Caskey- Schreiber stated she supports the concept of self - inspection with education in areas not deemed sensitive. She can't support the motion as it is now. She is concerned that they have not vetted the definition of sensitive areas. McShane stated he agrees that sensitive areas should be excluded from self - inspection, and the sensitive areas should be defined. Also, look at the special overlay areas of Lake Samish, Lake Whatcom, and Drayton Harbor to define the sensitive areas. Fleetwood stated that the Board shouldn't vote on the proposal until it has refined the definition of sensitive areas. The definition will influence votes on the proposal. Brenner stated only a minority of people will take the class. Those who take the class are those who are serious about maintaining their systems. Nelson stated they need to know the number of failures that the Health Department inspected, and how many systems had to be shut down before deciding the sensitive areas. Wolpers stated that since the April 2 implementation of the regulation, there have been 250 reports of system status performed by the 0 &M specialists. Of those, at least 16 of those came back as failures. Five of those have been addressed. They're working now on the others. Nelson asked if the failures were a public health concern or just a system failure. Wolpers stated that any failure is a public health concern. Nelson stated keep in perspective the impact to public health versus just a failing system. A system failure may impact a home, but nothing else. Identify and be clear about what they're trying to protect. Crawford stated he supports the motion. It allows the process to move forward. If people are concerned about self- inspection in environmentally - sensitive areas, there is no risk for at least the first year anyway, because the first inspection has to be done by a licensed inspector. They have a year to work on it. There is no harm in saying that this is a good concept, supported by the public. They have a year to deal with the environmentally sensitive issue. Get this out for a hearing. As they continue to refine and deal with environmental areas, they can make exclusions at that time. Brenner stated 250 systems were inspected and 16 were failures. Those failures would be found anyway, if done by a licensed 0 &M person first. This is a compromise to adopt the spirit of the law and respect the owners. Weimer stated they don't totally agree yet on the definition of sensitive areas. Also, he is concerned that they are treating complicated and less complicated systems the same way for self - inspection. The State saw a big difference between the two. He asked why the Board of Health, 7/31/2007, Page 11 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 County is giving pressure systems a pass if the State regulations say they need to be inspected every year. He asked why it shouldn't be done every other inspection, based on the State regulations. Wolpers stated the regulations are for every three years and every one year. That won't change. The change is for when the O &M specialist or when the homeowner does the inspection. The recommendation is to make program administration easier, so they don't have to track two different cycles. The intent is to have the first inspection done, and then go for five years until the next inspection is done. The owner of a gravity system would get the first inspection and the sixth inspection. The owner of a more technical system would be able to have the specialist inspect only on the sixth year. Weimer stated the State thinks the more technical systems fail quicker and should be inspected more often. Brenner stated have two classes, one for gravity and one for more technical systems. Motion failed 3 -4 with Brenner, Nelson, and Crawford in favor. Weimer stated he is in favor of homeowner inspection, but more clearly define the sensitive areas at first. Fleetwood stated he agrees. Delahunt stated that by the next Board of Health meeting, they hope to have the draft County management plan that will include the draft sensitive area designations. 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